howdy,
i just had a super 14" hornet opened to the k hornet. on a windy day, only shot it at 50yds, all groups were under an inch. went to the range, and my friend had a oehler set up, and only looking for pressure, i was shooting 40gn noslers bt, and 40gn sierra hp#1385, with ww680, loads 13.1 to 13.4, noslers 5 shot groups 2747 at 13.1, 2778 at 13.4, primers just starting to flatten, with win sm rifle primer.
sierras 13.1 5 shot groups at 2701, and 13.4 2727.
next range session will go to 13.7 and 14.0
with above speed, getting rifle speed in pistol
hope that helps......dan