Author Topic: 338-06 Ultra and 405 Winchester Target!! (Read 1705 times)

quickdtoo · « **on:** June 20, 2005, 10:33:10 AM »

Picked up my 338-06 A-Square Ultra barrel today, cut rifling looks excellent, I'm impressed with Wayne York's work, to say the least!!! He also bead blasted and reblued my 45-120 BC barrel, it looks fantastic now along with the remarked caliber designation!!! Just might be at the range later this week shooting the 338-06 with 250gr Sierra Gameking BTSPs and 230gr CT/Nosler Failsafes. :wink:

While there, we discussed reboring/rechambering a 38-55 Target barrel to 405 Winchester, he said it's a real popular caliber and he's done several, he just did one in a Ruger #1. He said he'd be glad to do the 38-55 Target. On my way home, I stopped at Sportsmans Warehouse, they had a Target in stock, so I bought it, called Wayne and told him I was on my way back to his shop to leave the barrel with him for him to have his way with it!!! It's there and I'm waiting again.....oh what fun!!! Now I need to start ordering dies, brass and bullets.......Christmas again!!! :-D :-D :-D

Tim

Varminter · « **Reply #1 on:** June 20, 2005, 11:18:30 AM »

Dang!!!!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: Quick your gonna have to slow down on the collection or i'm never gonna catch up with you. If your gun safe gets too full don't be afraid to send some of them my way so i can take care of them for you. If you want me to name some i can..........30-06 ultracomp, 338-06.....and any others you want to send my way. I can't wait to hear the results. How long did you have to wait for the 338-06?

quickdtoo · « **Reply #2 on:** June 20, 2005, 11:28:33 AM »

I took the 25-06 barrel to him on May 6, it was done last Tuesday, June 14, but I couldn't get down that day, so I picked it up today. He couldn't guarantee the 405 Winchester would be done as fast cuz he's got several others he's working on right now like Mt3030's, Marv's and Mac's, so I gotta wait for those and others in front of me....Plus he's selling his home and moving to Pendleton, OR, might be a bit of a wait if that happens in the mean time, but I'm not in any hurry, he does excellent work, so it's worth being patient... :wink:

Tim

http://www.graybeardoutdoors.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=62815&highlight=gunsmith

Datil · « **Reply #3 on:** June 20, 2005, 12:19:34 PM »

Thanks Quick, Thanks for the report. Sounds good, He has had my
barrel a month today. Maybe in a month I'll get barrel back.
Then I'll be one Happy Ol' Dog :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
Marv.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #4 on:** June 20, 2005, 12:22:18 PM »

Marv, he didn't have good news on your barrel....he hasn't given up yet, but it didn't sound too good. :cry: I'd send him an email for an update, maybe by the time ya get an answer his latest attempt to clear the bore will have been successful....

oregunsmithing@earthlink.net

Tim

Datil · « **Reply #5 on:** June 20, 2005, 02:02:33 PM »

Thanks Tim I will send him a e-mail or call again. Marv.

handirifle · « **Reply #6 on:** June 20, 2005, 04:13:50 PM »

Hey Quick
Can I borrow your check book. It's obviously got more in it than mine. :grin:

There won't be many calibers you don't have soon. Keep us updated.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #7 on:** June 20, 2005, 06:28:06 PM »

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It's obviously got more in it than mine. :grin:

Not anymore!!!! :roll:

I was considering getting a 44mag and reaming it to 445 SM, but decided I like the idea of a 2500fps 300gr X-bullet instead!!! :wink:

http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger_No1_405.htm

Tim

Smokin Joe · « **Reply #8 on:** June 21, 2005, 04:33:25 AM »

So, what's a "338-06 Weatherby Magnum"?

quickdtoo · « **Reply #9 on:** June 21, 2005, 04:53:15 AM »

Same as 338-06 A-Square.... I was wonderin if anyone was gonna ask!! Just takin advantage of Cabela's nomenclature! :wink:

338-06 Weatherby Magnum brass

http://www.huntingmag.com/guns_loads/338_06_rises/

Tim

Smokin Joe · « **Reply #10 on:** June 21, 2005, 05:03:31 AM »

Just checkin'. I would otherwise object to the characterization of the .333 OKH as a "Weatherby Magnum".

quickdtoo · « **Reply #11 on:** June 21, 2005, 06:08:42 AM »

Well, it looks like the brass will get shipped to me about the same time the barrel gets done, Buffalo Arms just called, they'll get it in the end of July, everyone is out of it, resembles the 204 Ruger brass situation, cept there's none available on ebay!! Did get some 350gr .411" X-bullets ordered from Barnes though. :wink:

Tim

GrampaMike · « **Reply #12 on:** June 21, 2005, 06:28:23 AM »

Quick. Any up close photos of the new barrels?

Longcruise · « **Reply #13 on:** June 21, 2005, 07:18:40 AM »

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Just checkin'. I would otherwise object to the characterization of the .333 OKH as a "Weatherby Magnum

Know what you mean. I for one object to weatherby naming the plain old vanilla 338/06 as a "Weatherby" be it "magnum" or any other.

Then again, I'm just a grump! :-)

quickdtoo · « **Reply #14 on:** June 21, 2005, 08:26:07 AM »

Here ya go Mike....

Tim

Coastwatcher · « **Reply #15 on:** June 21, 2005, 08:47:20 AM »

Nice!!!!!!!! :grin:

GrampaMike · « **Reply #16 on:** June 21, 2005, 09:11:12 AM »

Thanks Quick.

Like the re-marking, always worry about that if I tried a reaming at home. I would be the only one to know the new cartridge designation.

Since the 338-06 Weatherby Magnum conversion, was a re-bore and re-chamber. (I dont know much about this re-bore and re-chambering stuff.) Does it matter which barrel he starts with, say a heavy barrel 223 Rem (smallest chamber area and smallest bore) to almost anything else? Heavy Bull Barrel would give him more metal to work with.

knight0334 · « **Reply #17 on:** June 21, 2005, 09:40:32 AM »

Nice.. wish I had money. lol

quickdtoo · « **Reply #18 on:** June 21, 2005, 10:23:18 AM »

Quote from: GrampaMike

Thanks Quick.

Like the re-marking, always worry about that if I tried a reaming at home. I would be the only one to know the new cartridge designation.

Since the 338-06 Weatherby Magnum conversion, was a re-bore and re-chamber. (I dont know much about this re-bore and re-chambering stuff.) Does it matter which barrel he starts with, say a heavy barrel 223 Rem (smallest chamber area and smallest bore) to almost anything else? Heavy Bull Barrel would give him more metal to work with.

Mike,

I asked Wayne about shooting 45-70 in the 45-120 chamber, he said it would cause no harm, there would just be a big performance drop due to the longish throat. It would be no different than shooting 38 special ammo in a 357 Maximum, just a loooong jump to the throat.

Actually the magnum designation is a Cabela's misnomer that I capitalized on.... :lol: I've not seen it listed by that name anywhere else, the head stamp is Weatherby 338-06 A-sq.

There was no rechamber in the 25-06 to 338-06 conversion, just a rebore and a new throat cut. The 223 barrel would work fine just as long as the conversion caliber you choose is larger in all dimensions. IIRC, Fred used a 223 barrel for his 257 roberts Ultra.

Tim

http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eoregunsmithing/id13.html

quickdtoo · « **Reply #19 on:** June 21, 2005, 06:12:30 PM »

Uh oh, I guess LC and smokinjoe have a bone to pick with Weatherby!!! :-D :-D :-D

Tim :wink:

Smokin Joe · « **Reply #20 on:** June 22, 2005, 05:32:20 AM »

Yep! Now what does that make my .340? A .338-06 Weatherby Magnum "improved"? :? :? :?

Longcruise · « **Reply #21 on:** June 22, 2005, 10:53:44 AM »

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Uh oh, I guess LC and smokinjoe have a bone to pick with Weatherby!!!

Probably no point

Roy Sr. never woulda called it as such!

Longcruise · « **Reply #22 on:** June 23, 2005, 01:40:41 PM »

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but...at least they give credit to the company that pushed it thru SAMMI.by having it head stamped correctly..and that says a-lot for them...

Yeah, true. OTOH, I'm willing to bet that SAAMI would require the correct headstamp since there simply is no cartridge known as the 338/06 Weatherby Magnum! :grin:

Remember how confused the shooting public got when Rem changed the 7mm Express Remington to the 289 Remington. Some people still can't figure it out :?

Edited when I realized I'd called it the 289 Remington. Meant to say 280 Rem. Heck, there would be dozens of HandiHolics calling NEF within days to see when there would be a 289 Remington barrel :-D

quickdtoo · « **Reply #23 on:** June 24, 2005, 09:18:51 AM »

Here are the bullets I'll be loading in the 338-06 and 405 Winchester...

Tim

Left to right:

230gr CT Failsafe .338", 250gr Sierra Gameking BTSP .338", 350gr Barnes X-bullet .411" and a 300gr Nosler partition .458" for comparison.

Longcruise · « **Reply #24 on:** June 24, 2005, 01:42:06 PM »

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Here are the bullets I'll be loading

Methinks if you make the CT shoot you won't need anything else. Just my opinion though :-)

quickdtoo · « **Reply #25 on:** June 24, 2005, 02:49:57 PM »

I agree, the cheap sierras are for barrel break in, more than anything!!! But who knows, they might shoot good, too!!

Tim

Longcruise · « **Reply #26 on:** June 25, 2005, 04:58:30 AM »

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the cheap sierras are for barrel break in, more than anything

Good idea. I was thinking more about the end bullet for that monster elk :grin:

Datil · « **Reply #27 on:** June 25, 2005, 05:09:43 AM »

I have found all Sierra bullets shot good and don't brake up
on game that I shot. Just up to big Mule Deer.
Never got a chance at any thing bigger.
Just my 2 cents, Marv

quickdtoo · « **Reply #28 on:** June 25, 2005, 05:45:51 AM »

That's great news, Mac!!! :agree: :agree: :agree:

Marv, I've read a lot about the Sierras, lots of shooters love em, others hate em, I believe cuz they took the wrong shot with them, bullet placement with an unbonded bullets should always be in the boiler room, not thru the shoulder as many big game hunters like, I've never been a shoulder shooter, too much good eating there to be making hamburger out of it, a just-behind-the-shoulder-shot is my preference when I have the opportunity. I've killed a bunch of elk with core-lokts and for the last 15yrs or so with Failsafes, thru the lungs kills em dead, maybe not where they stand, but soon. The farthest any of em ran was 125yds, and she was on a dead run when I shot her thru the lungs, in fact, she died in mid stride as she jumped over a log!!

Tim

Datil · « **Reply #29 on:** June 25, 2005, 05:52:34 AM »

I talked to Wayne this week, he is sending my barrel to another
Gun smith to try to get unpluged. Maybe just maybe it will happen.
Marv.