Author Topic: Did anyone know about these... (Read 714 times)

Varminter · « **on:** July 02, 2005, 07:13:53 AM »

Found this on ebay. Probably not the best place to buy it. But i had never seen these before?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=73957&item=7166951795&rd=1

Whats the overall minimum length for a shotgun?

myarmor · « **Reply #1 on:** July 02, 2005, 07:18:52 AM »

Yeah I have been seeing those around the net. trying to make a tactical look in a Handi shotgun:
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=180449

Varminter · « **Reply #2 on:** July 02, 2005, 07:21:14 AM »

But my point is with just the pistol grip and a barrel cut down to 18 inches isn't that border line illegal? I'm not sure what the overall lenght is supossed to be?

quickdtoo · « **Reply #3 on:** July 02, 2005, 07:21:17 AM »

I sure as heck would want more than a single shot for a home defense firearm!!!! Not too practical for their intended purpose....

Tim

Varminter · « **Reply #4 on:** July 02, 2005, 07:23:27 AM »

I have to agree with you there Quick. :?

myarmor · « **Reply #5 on:** July 02, 2005, 07:28:25 AM »

Not completely sure of the legality of it either.
I believe everything changes once you take the stock off and have only a pistol grip handle.
Illegal=probably with the grip alone. But with the small buttstock and grip probably not.

jason280 · « **Reply #6 on:** July 02, 2005, 08:14:33 AM »

As long as it has a minimum over all length of at least 26", then it doesn't matter whether it has a pistol grip or regular stock. Placing a pistol grip on a Handi rifle or shotgun does not make it illegal, as long as the minimum overall length requirement is met.

myarmor · « **Reply #7 on:** July 02, 2005, 09:09:55 AM »

Quote from: jason280

As long as it has a minimum over all length of at least 26", then it doesn't matter whether it has a pistol grip or regular stock. Placing a pistol grip on a Handi rifle or shotgun does not make it illegal, as long as the minimum overall length requirement is met.

There ya go. Thanks for clearing that up jason.

safetysheriff · « **Reply #8 on:** July 02, 2005, 10:14:57 AM »

didn't some losers conspire to murder Randy Weaver's wife and one child over a sawed-off shotgun barrel that was a little bit shy of the rule......if you remember "Ruby Ridge" in Idaho.

that's a hard way to say it, but murder it was; and all because of some misunderstandings and because of a 'setup' with Randy Weaver being given an illegal (short-barreled) firearm to sell to a man that the Fed's wanted to catch. Weaver wound up in the middle of it all, and with his wife being murdered, as I see it, by Lon Horiuchi (spelling?)who supposedly was a 'sniper' for the FBI!

I don't think we'd see that kind of behavior out of today's FBI with George Bush at the helm (though his father was the president at the time of Ruby Ridge....); but it isn't worth running afoul of the law to try it.

the 26" rule isn't the whole story, I don't think.

ss'

Varminter · « **Reply #9 on:** July 02, 2005, 10:34:38 AM »

I'm not wanting to do this. Really i see no purpose in a single shot home defense weapon. My snub 38 does just fine. I just wanted everyone else to be well aware of the law if they where thinking about doing a project involving this piece.

Safety, have to agree with you about ruby ridge.

Mac11700 · « **Reply #10 on:** July 02, 2005, 10:58:41 AM »

I'm sure from the picture of the recoil pad...that that will dampen the recoil...yea...sure it will...

Just what I'd want to shoot slugs and buckshot thru...sure I would :eek:

Mac

mitchell · « **Reply #11 on:** July 02, 2005, 11:22:30 AM »

oh come on mac you only live once!!!! if it came in wood i would buy it just to play with ,sounds like fun to me.

Mac11700 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 02, 2005, 11:41:20 AM »

Not when it comes to having severe pain from a seperated shoulder...and me thinks that's what your going to get shooting slugs with that set up..

Mac

Deadeye47 · « **Reply #13 on:** July 02, 2005, 12:11:39 PM »

Here is my "unwelcome mat" :roll: No single shots for me...6 in ready for dispersion and backup on the side...can shoot 3" mag's if your masochistic.... :wink: (yes it hurts but not as bad I assume as on the receiving end)

O.A.L. 28-3/4 w/ 18" heavy barrel.....Mossberg 590A1

stimpylu32 · « **Reply #14 on:** July 02, 2005, 01:53:48 PM »

Not my ideal home de-fence choice , but might make a nice heavy cover bunny buster for along R.R. tracks , light load # 5s or 6s :lol:

Norseman112 · « **Reply #15 on:** July 02, 2005, 02:09:20 PM »

Wow deadeye that is some "unwelcome mat"

I would not use a single shot for home defence either.

Norse

218Bee · « **Reply #16 on:** July 02, 2005, 02:13:26 PM »

Note to self:

Don't break into Deadeyes house

:shock:

Rick

Cottonwood · « **Reply #17 on:** July 02, 2005, 05:44:29 PM »

Quote from: jason280

As long as it has a minimum over all length of at least 26", then it doesn't matter whether it has a pistol grip or regular stock. Placing a pistol grip on a Handi rifle or shotgun does not make it illegal, as long as the minimum overall length requirement is met.

Ditto... keep it legal and no problems from ATF :shock:

Phoneman · « **Reply #18 on:** July 02, 2005, 05:49:22 PM »

shotguns are fine. I like my 1911 with a laser.