Author Topic: chambered glock in his pants (Read 2312 times)

southernshooter · « **on:** February 21, 2003, 01:00:42 PM »

I used to shoot with a friend who carried his glock 21 (round chambered with no holster) stuck down into the front of his pants. I would cringe every time I would see him do that. Tried to warn him never to do that. I moved away some time later. If he kept doing that he probably was not able to have any kids later. Nobody in this forum does that, right?

I am CAL......... · « **Reply #1 on:** February 21, 2003, 01:36:32 PM »

:roll: Southernshooter, What difference does it make where your friend carries his Glock.It cannot shoot till the trigger is pulled all the way back anyway. Everdently you don't know how a Glock functions.

Savage · « **Reply #2 on:** February 22, 2003, 01:56:15 AM »

I frequently carry a Glock 36 with a Glock clip IWB with no holster behind the hip strong side. I use my fingers to guide and shield the trigger guard as I put the gun in my pants. Once in there it's not going to fire as the trigger is well protected. Funny but people are not usually concerned with the safety of carrying the Glock.. . This same person has little concern for the 870 in his truck rack with the chambered round. I guess if you can't see the hammer or strikerStay Safe,
Savage

HARD-CORE · « **Reply #3 on:** February 22, 2003, 04:11:24 AM »

HEY GUYS,

I HAVE A FRIEND AT WORK THAT IS GETTING HIS CCW AND HE WANTED TO TO SEE MY G23 BECAUSE HE'S CONSIDERING A GLOCK FOR HIS CARRY GUN. UPON MEETING HIM I WAS CARRYING MY PISTOL IN MY DESANTUS IWB HOLSTER. I REMOVED MY WEAPON TOOK OUT THE MAG AND CLEARED THE ACTION SO HE CAN CHECK IT OUT. HE LOOKED AT ME LIKE I WAS NUTS FOR CARRYING IT WITH A LIVE ROUND IN THE CHAMBER. HE TOLD ME THAT IF HE GETS THE GLOCK HE IS GOING TO KEEP THE CHAMBER EMPTY AND QUICKLY RACK THE SLIDE TO CHAMBER THE ROUND IF THE TIME EVER CAME FOR HIM TO DEFEND HIMSELF. :roll: I KIDDING TOLD HIM THAT MAYBE HE SHOULD GET A BB GUN INSTEAD,OR GET SOMETHING THAT HAS A MANUAL SAFTY. THEN I TOLD HIM THAT A GLOCK IS'NT MUCH DIFFRENT THAN CARRYING A DOUBLE ACTION REVOLVER IN HIS PANTS. YOU JUST HAVE TO WATCH WHERE YOUR TRIGGER FINGER IS.

BE SAFE,

HARD CORE

southernshooter · « **Reply #4 on:** February 22, 2003, 05:20:46 AM »

You can carry your Glock chambered with no holster if you want but I wouldn't do it. It would be too easy to slip a finger accidently into the trigger guard. That is why all Glock holsters always cover the trigger guard. No problem with a holster. No problem with a 1911 since the safety has to be taken off, the grip safety compressed and the trigger pulled for it to go off.

Savage · « **Reply #5 on:** February 22, 2003, 06:56:56 AM »

Southernshooter,
Never rely on mechinical safeties! All CCW holsters I have seen, ( and I own most of them) have a covered trigger guard. The reason behind that is untrained gun toters would most likely try to draw with the finger in the trigger guard. I'll say it again, you cannot idiot proof a weapon by adding more safeties! If your are not sufficiently trained in gun handling to feel comfortable with IWB carry with a DA, then by all means don't do it! It occurs to me that an untrained person might not remember to wipe off the safety on a 1911 as well.. Thats the reason for that type of carry. If maximum concealment is not an issue then by all means wear a holster. I prefer holster carry for the comfort. I have trained to be equally safe either way.
Stay Safe,
Savage

KING · « **Reply #6 on:** February 22, 2003, 11:25:54 AM »

:-D For what it is worth guys,I hardly ever use holster for soft clothes carry. It is either tucked into my waist band,or in a shoulder holster. King

southernshooter · « **Reply #7 on:** February 23, 2003, 12:37:31 AM »

Savage, if you are training to carry a glock unholstered in LE that might be ok but I wouldn't recommend to all the public to do it or to drop a chambered glock into a pocket with no holster. I do it all the time with my conventional DA semi auto and revolvers but not the Glock. This is just my opinion abd I know what they say about opinions. Maybe I am the only one with this opinion.

Savage · « **Reply #8 on:** February 23, 2003, 06:10:41 AM »

southernshooter,

I'm not advocating that everyone carry IWB without a holster. I only do it when I need to. With reasonable care and proper training I just don't see it as a safety concern. I handle my weapons with the same care no matter how I carry. The ADs I've seen have all occurred after the weapon was drawn or as it was holstered. They all had one thing in common, someone pulled the trigger! It all comes back to the proper training in safe gun handling! Having said all that, watch me blow my cheek off tonight when I tuck away my mdl 36!!
Stay Safe,
Savage

southernshooter · « **Reply #9 on:** March 03, 2003, 01:54:11 PM »

I do too know about Glocks. In fact I have a nickle plated one with wood grips in 38 special, with peep sights.

Savage · « **Reply #10 on:** March 04, 2003, 07:36:45 AM »

southernshooter,
I've got one of those in a compact model, except it's chambered in 38 S&W.

boneguru · « **Reply #11 on:** March 20, 2003, 05:12:58 AM »

I also carry a glock with the clip draw in the pants for my ccw, started with the 22 but too big, can be seen, defeats the point of ccw. moved to 23 and converted to 32. all carry the same way, dominant rear. started with a kel tec p40 in the front on a modified belt clip made by keltec that I mounted lower so it would be concealed but wanted a longer bbl for more accuracy, so moved to the glock. learned real young not to put my finger on the trigger till I wanted to fire, that keeps mefrom adding holes to my behind today, Raymond

Steve357 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 15, 2003, 05:34:26 PM »

A holster is as much a cause of AD's for cops as anything else. Years ago most cop holsters had uncoverd trigger guards. These were the days when revolvers ruled. When the covered TGs came along I heard (no internet in those days) of many ADs, in haste or excitement an officer would shove thier smith or colt into thier duty holster and BANG!.

The same thing will happen to your glock, no matter if you shove it into your waistband or into a holster. If you finger is inside that trigger quard, its gonna go bang.

JeffG · « **Reply #13 on:** April 20, 2003, 03:53:31 PM »

Excellent point about the trigger finger, there is no other way to cause AD's. I have carried 1911 Colts, locked-and-cocked in what we used to call a Mexican concealable, it was ingeneous...just a tied figure 8 of boot lace, put one end through my belt and the barrel went through the other, you wear it inside the wastband, it keeps the gun in place pretty well with belt tension.
If you wear two, or one in the appendix position, it's gonna be pointed at something pretty sensitive to gunfire...

Ya gotta keep your damn finger off the trigger until you are shooting. You fight like you train.

Steve357 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 20, 2003, 10:07:00 PM »

JeffG

The last sentence of your post says a lot. There were reports years ago of officers gettting killed in gunfights with empty guns in their hands. And empty brass in thier pokets They were used to dumping the emptys into thier hands and shoving them into a pocket so they didnt have to pick up brass on the range. And through force of habit did the same thing in a life and death gunfight.

jump2000 · « **Reply #15 on:** June 30, 2003, 01:47:01 PM »

Hello all, these forums are a great resource.
Well, today I bought my first gun, and by posting here I'm sure you can guess it was a Glock... model 17 to be exact.

One of my worries when I was looking at my choices was the lack of a separate safety. I understand that it actually has three internal safeties, but the fellow who sold me the gun didn't do a very good job at explaining exactly how it all worked. I must have asked him to explain it 3 times before I gave up. SO, can anyone here explain the technical workings of these safties for me?

Thank you very much,
Joshua

Savage · « **Reply #16 on:** June 30, 2003, 01:59:55 PM »

Jump,
Read your owner's manual. There is a good explaination of the functions of the pistol as well as the workings of the internal safeties. There are some good illustrations as well to help you understand their functions.
Stay Safe,
Savage

Savage · « **Reply #17 on:** June 30, 2003, 02:12:34 PM »

By the way, nothing can replace the most effective safety of all, the one between your ears! Learn to handle any weapon safely. Never count on mechanical safeties to take the place of good safety pratices. Get some training!!
Stay Safe,
Savage

KING · « **Reply #18 on:** June 30, 2003, 03:17:08 PM »

:-D Jump2000....Savage said it pretty straight. The fourth safety is.......YOU. Owners manual does not take place of use explaining it to you my friend. With the gun in one hand,and the book in the other it is pretty hard to replace that learning. Just remember that the most important safety on any firearm is the person whom is handling it................King

jump2000 · « **Reply #19 on:** July 03, 2003, 10:55:31 AM »

I guess I left out some information. I've actually been shooting for about 8 years now, but these guns were always .22's and also my father's. What I meant to say was that this is the first gun of my very own as well as the first caliber larger than .22

I've been through several firearms safety courses, and consider myself to be a very safe handler of firearms.

The gun I bought was used and included everything that came with the gun when it was new except the manual... otherwise I would have jumped right on that.

Savage · « **Reply #20 on:** July 03, 2003, 01:56:40 PM »

Jump,
Go to the Glock web site. There is a lot of information there including the workings of the internal safeties. If you plan on carrying your Glock for self defense, find an IDPA club in your area. It's not a dress rehersal for the real thing, but good pratice to improve your gun handling skills.
Stay Safe,
Savage