I have used the noslers only once and did not see any reason to spend the $ on them after seeing how the Hornady bullets compared to them. I have shot deer in Maine and Md, blackbear ,and a bunch of other critters. The hornady 200 RN seems to knock deer off their feet quicker than any other slug. Their 200 semipointed slug seems to be harder and leaves a smaller in diameter wound channel, judging by exit holes and meat damage.The noslers would REALLY mess up a deer! Too much meat damage in my opinion. They might be good for a trophy hunter,but I like to eat deer meat!