Author Topic: what do you use to tone down recoil (Read 2687 times)

Forest Walker · « **on:** July 25, 2005, 03:52:53 AM »

I got whacked pretty good buy my 450 marlin last night( my own fault had a bad shooting position) and it made me realize how much recoil there is when shooting from the bench. So I'm trying to find out what people are using with their heavy recoil guns when sighting in or practicing

jgalar · « **Reply #1 on:** July 25, 2005, 10:14:12 AM »

I use a shoulder (or sissy) pad.

Sheriff · « **Reply #2 on:** July 25, 2005, 01:12:47 PM »

When shooting from the bench I use a rest that hooks over the front of the table and restricts rearward movement of the rifle.

oso45-70 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 25, 2005, 04:56:50 PM »

Fotest Walker

I've found a past recoil pad is about the best way to shoot the 45-70. The loads i shoot with my 45-70s is about the same as the 450. Its best to keep your rifle as high as possable. If you have a shooting table put some thing like a box ar suit case or some thing to give you some more elevation. If you are standing in the upright position the recoil is not near as brutal .........Joe.........

Old Griz · « **Reply #4 on:** July 30, 2005, 11:14:31 AM »

:cb2: 'Bout the only way to really tone down recoil . . . is to shoot a .30-30!

woods · « **Reply #5 on:** August 10, 2005, 03:29:59 PM »

I see alot of people leanning forward into a rifle of heavy caliber that is asking for a kicking. Try sitting up straighter so the recoil pushes your shoulder back instead of taking it on the top shoulder muscel pushing your whole body. I also shoot reduced loads find a low velocity lead bullet load and plink away. If your insistent of the heavy stuff, purchase a jacket with the pad in the shoulder they do help. In most hunting situations people have on some type of hunting coat or jacket , it is benificial to practice with these on just so you can learn to slide the gun into your shoulder with out catching clothing.

woods

RGS · « **Reply #6 on:** August 10, 2005, 05:33:15 PM »

I try to shoot my 1895G somewhere other than the bench. If I am checking a new load and need to use the bench, I'll slip a sand bag between me and the butt if it is going to take more than 3 shots to do my test.

I also hang on fairly tight.

I prefer to shoot from a seated position(away from the bench), again with a fairly tight grip and let my upper body roll with the recoil.

These guns will hammer a guy, no way around that with the full power loads. Once you get a good hunting load or 2 worked out you might do most of your casual shooting with reduced loads. They are easyer on the rifle as well. I already had a crack repaired on the butt stock of mine. :lol:

Rick

Mikey · « **Reply #7 on:** August 11, 2005, 02:23:38 AM »

Forest Walker - get yourself a PAST Recoil Shield and your problems will be over. I have used on of those for the past couple of years and now won't even go to the range without it.

It really proved its worth when I had to go through almost 1K rounds of heavy 444 to find a heavy load for Boar and Elk. Now I use it with every rifle I shoot from the bench. HTH. Mikey.

old geezer · « **Reply #8 on:** August 11, 2005, 09:40:48 AM »

I have a pacemaker/defribulator in my left shoulder, and shoot left handed. On my 30-30, I put a Sims Limbsaver pad for hunting, and when on the bench I also use a Past pad. Don't even hardly know when the little 30 goes off. Don't want to mess up $100k worth of electronics.

marlinman93 · « **Reply #9 on:** August 11, 2005, 12:47:37 PM »

At the range, I also use a Past sissy pad, but in the field I don't use anything. Funny how shooting at game distracts the mind, as I don't feel recoil, or hear how loud the report is when I'm shooting game!

mr.frosty · « **Reply #10 on:** August 11, 2005, 01:36:01 PM »

Quote from: Old Griz

:cb2: 'Bout the only way to really tone down recoil . . . is to shoot a .30-30!

yup a 30-30 aint got much punch but my 1895 will make you notice
fairly quick to pay attention but i use a limbsaver on the 1895 and to kicks like a 30-30 dont fit the just exact but it serves its purpose

Keith L · « **Reply #11 on:** August 11, 2005, 02:20:50 PM »

Quote from: marlinman93

At the range, I also use a Past sissy pad, but in the field I don't use anything. Funny how shooting at game distracts the mind, as I don't feel recoil, or hear how loud the report is when I'm shooting game!

I never notice any ill effects from recoil or noise when hunting. May be natures way of telling me to hunt more.

Coyote Hunter · « **Reply #12 on:** August 12, 2005, 05:18:15 PM »

PAST recoil pad once in a while, Kick Killer slip-on recoil pad (small) from Cabelas all the time.

Jason · « **Reply #13 on:** August 16, 2005, 11:03:20 AM »

Someone mentioned a Limbsaver recoil pad above. I've used about 12 of them now and have never had a recoil pad come anywhere close to reducing felt recoil the way the Limbsaver pads do. You should also use one of the "sissy" pads (either just strapped on or mounted in a shooting vest/jacket) for benchrest shooting at the range. When bench shooting, you are in a bad position for absorbing recoil so it's better to keep it out of your mind with padding. If you shoot in benchrest position with big recoiling guns enough, it will make you flinch. This screws up any testing you might be doing at the range and can also make you flinch in the field, possibly ruining a shot of a lifetime. I bet with a Limbsaver recoil pad on the gun and a pad on your shoulder, you won't even think about recoil anymore, which is how it should be.

NONYA · « **Reply #14 on:** August 16, 2005, 11:11:08 AM »

phenobarbatol!!lol

Chuck White · « **Reply #15 on:** August 16, 2005, 02:06:27 PM »

Forest Walker;
I've been thinking of getting a "Caldwell" "Lead Sled"!

I've put out a couple of "feelers", but it must be that not too many people have used them, at least I haven't gotten much response!

I've seen them advertised on the Outdoor Channel, and Gander Mountain has them on sale right now for $120.00!

SeekHer · « **Reply #16 on:** August 16, 2005, 02:12:39 PM »

The guys that regulate the barrels of the big double rifles, do so from a standing bench, allowing the whole body to absorb the recoil.

hogship · « **Reply #17 on:** August 18, 2005, 05:59:59 PM »

I put one of the Limbsaver slip-on recoil pads right over the original pad on the 1895GS.....now, I've got two recoil pads and they really tone down the recoil.

It does add a little length of pull, but I've found it to be inconsequential.

hog

Danny Boy · « **Reply #18 on:** August 27, 2005, 03:14:41 AM »

At the range I use a PAST shoulder pad. Can't do without it. Matter of fact I have one pad in each of my cars just in case I forget to pack.

In the woods, nothing.

Danny Boy

VeryOldDog · « **Reply #19 on:** August 28, 2005, 01:19:24 PM »

I do not seem to have the recoil problems that are being discussed with my Marlin 1895G 45-70. As a matter of fact, I would say that the recoil is no more than a 30-06. My Marlin is ported, and has a recoil pad which is how I thought all of them were purchased. What I added is a military sling that I wrap my arm in when I fire the piece. This really keeps the rise down and it really does not punch me in the shoulder at all. You may want to try this. I purchased an Uncle Mikes leather military sling for about $21.00 at local sports shop. I guess after 23 years in the Corps, this is not too bad. Good luck.

Savage .250 · « **Reply #20 on:** August 29, 2005, 01:43:05 AM »

Hire a "sighter-iner" to due the pre-shooting at the range. When you fire
that bad-boy at your grocery item you`ll be so excited you won`t feel a thing. Problem solved, IMHO.

" The best part of the hunt is not the harvest but in the experience."

darrell8937 · « **Reply #21 on:** September 26, 2005, 01:51:13 PM »

I have a Caldwell Lead sled.. LOVE IT! Did I mention I love it. Makes a 45 seventy feel like a .243. You can use it with or without lead shot bags. Up to 100 lbs. I only use one bag. It is a nice rest and reduces recoil greatyl. Eaisy to put together as well. I beleive it was around 120 bucks. Worth it. I bought mine thru "Big Boys Gun Toys" a top notch supplier.

Coyote Hunter · « **Reply #22 on:** September 29, 2005, 03:02:25 AM »

Forest Walker -

I forgot to mention the worth of a long eye-relief scope when I mentioned the slip-on recoil pad.

The Leupold 2-7x33 scopes offer 4.9" eye relief at 2x and are fairly compact. I have left mine on the rifle when firing my "Rhino Blaster" loads (460g hardcast @ 1812fps, 48 foot-pounds recoil) and never had a problem with the scope hitting me. Wouldn't hiunk about leaving the scope on if it had the more typical 3" eye relief.

Just something to consider.

elyod56 · « **Reply #23 on:** October 22, 2005, 05:22:39 PM »

my marlin lever is a 444s and it still has the original recoil pad which now is about as hard as the wood ahead of it. i concentrate on my trigger pull and try to put all else out of my mind. i also think about following through after the sear breaks. a flinch is inevitable so you should get to know your limits before you start. if you can't take your time and sight the rifle in an afternoon,maybe you should find another hobby.

Jason · « **Reply #24 on:** October 24, 2005, 06:49:00 AM »

Quote from: elyod56

a flinch is inevitable so you should get to know your limits before you start.

No, a flinch is not inevitable. It can be prevented by getting a gun that fits the shooter well and by the shooter practicing with the gun enough to get comfortable with it, usually starting in shorter sessions if the gun is toward the upper limit of that individual shooter's recoil tolerance. Prevention of a flinch is what this thread is all about.

Chuck White · « **Reply #25 on:** October 24, 2005, 11:28:10 AM »

Quote from: Chuck White

Forest Walker;
I've been thinking of getting a "Caldwell" "Lead Sled"!

I've put out a couple of "feelers", but it must be that not too many people have used them, at least I haven't gotten much response!

I've seen them advertised on the Outdoor Channel, and Gander Mountain has them on sale right now for $120.00!

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Quote from: darrell8937

I have a Caldwell Lead sled.. LOVE IT! Did I mention I love it. Makes a 45 seventy feel like a .243. You can use it with or without lead shot bags. Up to 100 lbs. I only use one bag. It is a nice rest and reduces recoil greatyl. Eaisy to put together as well. I beleive it was around 120 bucks. Worth it. I bought mine thru "Big Boys Gun Toys" a top notch supplier.!

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I got a Lead Sled a couple weeks ago!
Now I wish I had gotten one "way back when"!
MIDWAY has them in their catalog for$119.99!

Even without considering the recoil reduction, they really do make a nice rest for holding your rifle steady!

If you bought one, I'd pretty-much bet that you'd never regret it!

Flinch · « **Reply #26 on:** October 25, 2005, 08:30:31 AM »

I used to have a lot of problems with flinching while sighting in high powered rifles, then I started putting a 25 pound bag of shot between my shoulder and the rifle. This makes a 300 winmag feel like a 223.

Dee · « **Reply #27 on:** October 26, 2005, 12:17:02 PM »

This is an old trick that has been around for years but, it does dampen the felt recoil. I am sure there will be some critics as there always is but, here it is. Take the butt plate off and carefully drill some holes (not enough to weaken the stock and not close to the edge) and fill them with #9 or smaller shot. It's like penicillin when I was younger. Works like a charm.

K.K. · « **Reply #28 on:** October 30, 2005, 01:29:22 PM »

I, too shoot a .450, and off the bench used to be no fun. Ibought the Lead Sled by Caldwell (about $130.00), but worth every penny. with two 25 lbs. bags of lead shot, I now can shoot 2 boxes of factory ammo comforably. I can also sight in my 12 gauge slug gun, turkey gun and ultralight 300 WSM without pain. Any of these guns aren't too bad when shooting off-hand, but without the Lead Sled, they were beating me up. I'm 6'0 260 lbs, and no stranger to recoil, but this device made sighting in fun again!

gunbuster · « **Reply #29 on:** October 30, 2005, 03:49:25 PM »

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