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Offline Mr_Christopher

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Question About a New CZ 452 "Target" Model
« on: July 27, 2005, 10:44:22 AM »
It's a 452 American action in a laminate target stock.  Ths box says "Target" yet I heard somewhere it was called a Sportster.  

See here:

http://photobucket.com/albums/a187/OldSwede/?action=view&current=452s.jpg

What silhouette class would this gun belong to?  Oh and this is a special run for Jerry's so you'd have to get your local gun shop to order one from them if you're interested.

Mine is costing me $430 plus tax....

Chris

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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2005, 11:12:18 AM »
This woud fall into "Smallbore Rifle" class. Not a "Hunting style" stock by any means.

There might also be a concern if it will pass for standard rifle  class...would have to measure the stock demisions and re-read the rules. I'm sure someone will comeolong shortly that has a book infront of them BUT the drop in the back looks "iffy" LOL.

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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2005, 06:04:34 PM »
Thanks Chicken.  Ok now, I know some of you guys are way hip when it comes to rimfire silhouette rifles.  What class would this gun fall under?

Thanks :-)

Chris

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SR Rifle dimensions
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2005, 01:23:00 AM »
There are four dimensions that govern the stock configuration.
Three are measured from the centerline of the barrel and other is the thickness of the stock at its maximum width at the forearm.
1. From the centerline of the barrel measured downward to the bottom of stock (butt end ) maximum allowed dimension is 7 inches.
2. From the centerline of the barrel measured downward to the top of the chin comb that is in direct line with the barrel centerline the maximum height of the comb is .5 inch below the barrel centerline. It can flare out to a higher dimension away from the centerline but the .5 dimension must be maintained at the centerline.
3. From the centerline of the barrel measured downward to the underside of the stock at the trigger guard the maximum dimension of the stock is 2.25 inches
4. The maximum thickness of the stock at the trigger guard area is 2.25 inches
It's hard to tell from your picture if this gun is within these dimension. As far as the class it would be in providing the dimensions are within the limits here are some additional requirements.
Silhouette or standard rifle must weigh no more than 10 lbs. 2 oz and have a safe trigger.
Hunter rifle must weigh no more than 9 lbs and have a minimum trigger pull of 2 lbs. and also must have a tapered barrell that is smaller at the muzzlel end than the breach end.
There are some other dimensions for scopes and barrel lenght but you should order a rule book from the NRA to get the complete rules and dimensions.
Hope this helps.

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Question About a New CZ 452 "Target&qu
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2005, 05:04:46 AM »
smallbore hunter rifle weight limit is 8.5lbs.

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SB rifle
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2005, 05:17:42 AM »
Opp's to early thanks Dave[/b]

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Question About a New CZ 452 "Target&qu
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2005, 07:01:52 AM »
PPK

There are a couple of other areas where there are discrepancies:

(Keep in mind that these points are ref Standard Rifles...)

1. The max elevation of the comb is centerline of the bore. It can exceed that with a 'Monte Carlo roll' by .5 inches on the off side. (There's no requirement for the comb to be .5 inches below bore centerline.)

2. That 2.25 inch depth/width is for the entire forearm -- not just at the trigger guard area. (The rule actually says: 'including the trigger guard mounts and screws') AFAIK that wording was primarily to eliminate the old Anschutz 54.18s with the thumb extension on the guard...but I could be wrong about the actual reason.

A problem for match directors is that the rules actually allow more latitude for hunter rifles than for standard rifles. (There are no specific forearm width, forearm depth, drop-at-toe or comb height limits on hunters.) At this time, anyone running tech would be well advised to check carefully any hunter that will be used in both classes since some of the new designs -- which are completely legal for hunter --  push both comb height and drop at toe limit for standard very closely. (We used to usually just accept that any legal hunter was legal for standard, but now we should really certify each rifle both ways.)


BTW -- on the subject of stocks but not referring to this question, Mark Pharr told me yesterday that he is developing a new hunter design that is essentially like his current stock but with a forearm that will accommodate people who shoot 'split-finger'.
E Kuney

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SB rifle
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2005, 11:28:46 AM »
Thanks guys, maybe another cup of coffee was needed before I started.

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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2005, 05:56:53 PM »
I've never made a misteak mysef!  :-D
E Kuney

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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2005, 04:38:39 AM »
Thanks for all the input fellas!

Chris