My step-dad ordered the kit with the scope and starter kit, the qualitys not all-that, but it shoots great. He shoots 90gr. of Pyro, 240 gr. TC sabot. Drives nails at 50yds., close at 100. The Wolf, Optima, and Traditions Pursuit are great starter rifles. I have the Pursuit and "like it a--lot". For someone like me and Jim that has never fooled with a ML, they're good rifles. After I take a few with it, thinking about getting something a little nicer like the Omega, or Encore.