Author Topic: 30-06 coyote loads (Read 1616 times)

Gallahad · « **on:** August 04, 2005, 10:18:54 AM »

Ive been having a hard time finding smaller grained 30 cal. bullets. Is 100 gr. small as they come? Anyway, Im looking for yote loads for the 06. Id like to find a smaller bullet to get more velocity with less recoil and noise.? I load 150 gr. flat backed spire points for whitetail, and don't have to change my point of aim from close up, and out to 275-300 yds. she ain't fun to shoot though. and seems like overkill for yotes. I should mention we got bigger coyotes up here. I'd like a load where if a 300 yd. shot presented itself, Id feel confident with the load. Any suggestions?

Wlscott · « **Reply #1 on:** August 05, 2005, 05:33:10 AM »

I hate to see a post go unanswered so I'll give it a shot.

I don't know if they make a 30 cal bullet lighter than 100 grain. Even if they do, I'd recommend that you either stay with your 150 grain load that you use for deer, or make the leap and buy a dedicated coyote rifle in one of the 22 cal centerfire offerings.

The 150 grain deer load that you're using will kill a coyote plenty dead, and it should be going fast enough to shoot plenty flat out to 300 or so yards (if you practice with it and know where it hits).

Most likely, the "light for caliber" bullets in .30 cal won't shoot just real well out of your rifle, especially out around 300 yards. The twist in that barrel just won't stabalize that short stubby bullet.

Hope this helps.

Gallahad · « **Reply #2 on:** August 05, 2005, 10:08:48 AM »

Well I appreciate the answer

The deer Ive shot with the 150 gr. load havent had any real pelt damage to speak of other than a hole through em. I dont know if the effects would be any different on a coyote. I checked into those 30 cal. plastic sabots that hold a 22 cal bullet, but I dont think long range accuracy would be good, also its more expensive to load than my deer load.

I did find a 90 gr. XTP in 30 cal. what do ya think about the stability of an xtp out of a long gun? seems like theres a lot more bullet to contact the rifleing than any smaller grained rifle bullet. ?

skb2706 · « **Reply #3 on:** August 05, 2005, 11:01:52 AM »

You would gain little if anything trying to shoot those lite bullets in a 30 cal. Check any ballistics chart or good loading book. The longer higher BC bullets fly ....ultimately flatter at long range. The high speed of the lite bullets makes them fly like a mattress out the window....quick but short.
Anything launched out of your 30-06 ...at even moderate speeds will tear up a coyote so using a lighter bullet will serve no real purpose.

Lawdog · « **Reply #4 on:** August 05, 2005, 12:03:43 PM »

I have tried various 110 - 125 gr. bullets in my .30-06s but pelt damage was always to great. Ruined the value of the pelt. I gave up on trying to use the .30-06 cartridge for Coyotes. Lawdog

Wlscott · « **Reply #5 on:** August 06, 2005, 08:14:42 AM »

Quote from: Lawdog

I have tried various 110 - 125 gr. bullets in my .30-06s but pelt damage was always to great. Ruined the value of the pelt. I gave up on trying to use the .30-06 cartridge for Coyotes. Lawdog

We noticed the inverse of this with a 270 WIN shooting a 110 grain HP load. it didn't open up at all and we lost a few dogs because of it.

Now, the ultra light for caliber .30 cal bullets with a polymer tip will likely open up.....violently. You'll probably have more pelt damage using one of these than you will with your 150 grain deer load.

The 150 grain deer load should pass through, opening up slightly. You'll have a hole on either side, but not a GIANT hole.

I also agree with skb in that all you're going to gain with higher velocity in a 30-06 is pelt damage. The heavier bullets are going to fly more efficiently, thus have less drop at longer ranges.

Gallahad · « **Reply #6 on:** August 06, 2005, 11:12:02 AM »

I think Ill just try my deer load, like i said before the pelt damage on the deer isnt bad at all. I dont think it would even open up all the way on a yote. can't afford another gun right now :roll: i'm not worried about a blood shot hide, im a taxidermist and that is easily fixed with a little STOP-ROT. In case anybody wants to know, its a clear liquid you brush on to bloodshot ereas, let it sit, and the blood pretty much dissapears. hair holds tight, and when its done its hard to tell if its a bullet hole or a cut! you have to brush it in a few times, and I massage it into the hide. Some dude invented it a few years back, its available through vandykes, and other taxidermy co.'s Iv'e been using it for 2 years as a taxidermist and think its great :wink: by the way, I dont work for thease companies, just thought id share the info if it could help save somebodys hide.

varmit_master · « **Reply #7 on:** August 07, 2005, 07:46:07 PM »

HI i was looking in my Varmint Hunter Mag. there is a custom bullets in there for a 30 cal
80gr H.P. & Varmint 100/box 25.00
87.gr
94gr
106gr
the name of the place is JRP Custom Bullets
# 802 438 5548 or 518 282 0084
i shoot a 125gr Nosler BT out of my 300 wby for dogs but here the fur isnt go on alot of them they have the mange VM

james · « **Reply #8 on:** August 08, 2005, 10:07:07 AM »

I would stick w/ the 150s too. I have tried 125 gr. bullets in my 308 and couldn't get the accuracy I could w/ 150 gr. I've taken yotes at over 400 yds and if there is any wind, you need the heavier bullet.
james

STexhunter · « **Reply #9 on:** August 08, 2005, 07:56:29 PM »

I agree with some of the other guys, while I have found from fair to excellent accuracy with handloads under 150 grains in my 06, I still use the 150 grain handloads for deer and coyotes. No need to adjust the scope for different loads etc. Just my 2 cents worth.

Catfish · « **Reply #10 on:** September 06, 2005, 06:15:41 PM »

The litest bullet that I`ve found that will retain it`s accuracy in .30 cal. is the Speer 130 HP`s. But if your going to use them and try to save hides get ready to sew the 2 halves back together. If your a true hide hunter the only cal. for you is the .17 Rem. I think that the .204 would be good for coyote but haven`t shot one with that round yet.

handirifle · « **Reply #11 on:** September 07, 2005, 12:50:50 PM »

Load up some of Sierra's Match bullets. Very accurate and will drop them fast, yet just a 30 cal in and most likely a 30 cal out. They are not designed to expand.

varmit_master · « **Reply #12 on:** September 10, 2005, 09:08:55 PM »

I have a Rem 700 BDL SS BM 300 wby . I load 125gr Nosler BT for it and it groups them good. VM

koli · « **Reply #13 on:** September 12, 2005, 04:53:14 PM »

I have used Federal Nosler Balistic Tips 150gr. in my Ruger MkII .30-06. They group real nice at 200 yds. and have shot some groundhods with them. However, they may not be good for your purposes as they blew up the hogs pretty well.

peakoftherut · « **Reply #14 on:** September 12, 2005, 06:21:01 PM »

You might want to try some fmj bullets, or surplus ammo.

Sourdough · « **Reply #15 on:** October 21, 2005, 08:08:57 PM »

I use Speer 125 gar TNTs. They are extremely accurate out to 400 yards. After that wind drift is too great. Only I use them on wolves, much bigger animal than a coyote, about the size of a southern whitetail doe. Bullets don't go out the other side, they literally explode inside. Animals don't go far. They don't work on foxes, not enough left to piece back together. Would expect similar results on coyotes. The only recommendations I have is to try and find some Full Metal Jackets. sillouette shooters use them, they would not expand, just a .308 hole in and a .308 hole out. Problem there is they may run off before dieing and be hard to find. Love my 06, but to be honest it's not a good varmit rifle, hits them real good, just not much left afterwards. Don't use Speer's 110gr HP varmit bullet on foxes either. Now that bullet might work on coyotes, don't know. A fox and a Turkey were the only things I ever shot with it. Blew up the fox, body shot. Hit the turkey in the head, 35 yard shot.