Author Topic: Extractor barrels (Read 1420 times)

handirifle · « **on:** August 09, 2005, 06:29:39 AM »

I sent NEF an email asking if the 25-06 or 280 come in extractor models. The reply was those calibers would be available in extractor models in late this fall.

Yet another delima for me. Save money now and get ejector or wait, pay more, and get extractor???

Right about the time I thought I had my mind made up :?

Anyone with an extractor, does it look like the ejector model could be converted?

Zeke Menuar · « **Reply #1 on:** August 09, 2005, 07:53:47 AM »

Quote from: handirifle

Anyone with an extractor, does it look like the ejector model could be converted?

Yup

http://www.brimstonepistoleros.com/Articles/hr-ejector-mod.html

ZM

Mac11700 · « **Reply #2 on:** August 09, 2005, 08:09:00 AM »

Handi:

Why would you want an extractor on a single shot hunting rifle? If your benchresting it all the time...or even on a varmint rig...I could understand it...but on a hunting rifle that will most likely be used with gloves on???I know folks like them...and all...but...it just doesn't make good sense to me..I used to have them on my shotguns...for trap and skeet...they would suffice..but not where you might be in a hurry to reload quickly...

Mac

quickdtoo · « **Reply #3 on:** August 09, 2005, 08:20:31 AM »

The ejector can be converted to a spring driven extractor, but not a mechanical extractor as comes from the factory, the underlug is totally different. There have been some here that have ordered barrels with an extractor instead of the ejector, so I would just request the extractor on your barrel order to take advantage of the barrel discount offer. They won't come standard on any model except the new calibers until they run out of the old style underlug, I'm sure that's what CS meant when they said they won't be available until later this year, that's the same thing they told Mac earlier this year. You may have to wait longer for the new underlug to be installed, but I'd still order it with an extractor now if you want one.

Tim

handirifle · « **Reply #4 on:** August 09, 2005, 08:53:09 AM »

Mac
I agree with your logic except that to me it would be worse to have a stuck case in the field.

I don't want to send my receiver off though and wait till the end of the fall to get it back. I'll need it to hunt coyotes before that.

Has anyone had any majar stuck case problems with the 30-06 (280, 25-06, etc) cased rounds?

Mac11700 · « **Reply #5 on:** August 09, 2005, 07:57:03 PM »

Nope...I haven't..

Mac

handirifle · « **Reply #6 on:** August 09, 2005, 08:08:19 PM »

Well I hope mine doesn't either.

It goes off real soon for the 280 ONLY barrel.

Does anyone know if the synthetic stock listed for 37.95, if it includes the forend?

knight0334 · « **Reply #7 on:** August 10, 2005, 05:14:18 AM »

Quote from: Mac11700

Handi:

Why would you want an extractor on a single shot hunting rifle? If your benchresting it all the time...or even on a varmint rig...I could understand it...but on a hunting rifle that will most likely be used with gloves on???I know folks like them...and all...but...it just doesn't make good sense to me..I used to have them on my shotguns...for trap and skeet...they would suffice..but not where you might be in a hurry to reload quickly...

Mac

Some of us prefer not having to look for brass. ....or have developed skills on reloading an extractor gun just as fast as some people can open an ejecter gun or run a level or bolt.

When hunting, I carry a cartridge between my left ring finger and middle finger, and another between my middle finger and pointer finger by the rim. I can pull out the empty with pointer and thumb then load another in the next motion of my hand. ...not that big of a deal, nor is there any humanly noticable time difference between that and ejecting a round and loading another.

Mac11700 · « **Reply #8 on:** August 10, 2005, 06:05:16 AM »

Knight...I've never seen anyone who can operate a rifle when it's cold and with gloves on that has an extractor as fast as operating one that has ejector.
As to having to look for brass...when I'm hunting big game...losing 1 or 2 pieces of brass isn't a big deal for me...I too hold shells in my left hand when approching game when I'm stalking....like I said.. it doesn't make good sense to me having extractors...unless doing alot of bench shooting or varmint hunting...

Handi...looks like you got your mind made up on the 280...and that's a good thing...I hope it shoots great for you...

Mac

bajabill · « **Reply #9 on:** August 10, 2005, 06:13:04 AM »

Quick

When I talked to them about this, I did not get an indication that the extractor was available upon request. They told me it was available only on a select few chamberings. Was anyone told that we could request and just wait a little longer to get the extractor on any chambering?

quickdtoo · « **Reply #10 on:** August 10, 2005, 01:38:07 PM »

I don't know for sure...may have been a particular caliber that was the subject at the time, dunno....but that person did say it was possible to get an extractor by request.

Just did a search, it was youngbdv that got a .223 barrel with an extractor by request.

Tim

http://www.graybeardoutdoors.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=66738&highlight=extractor

Leftoverdj · « **Reply #11 on:** August 10, 2005, 09:45:54 PM »

I got a couple of guns with extractors rather than ejectors and don't find them slow at all. Just swing the butt down and the barrel up as you break it and the case drops free. Does it every time, too, which you can't say for the NEF ejector and the higher pressure cartridges.

pitt0800 · « **Reply #12 on:** August 12, 2005, 05:15:21 PM »

I had an '06 w/ ejectors and I had problems. It happened only after about the third shot at the range w/in about a 5 min shooting span. After it cooled, it kicked the brass out easily. I guess for deer hunting when would you need a third shot? Hopefully not. But that is the reason that I sold the gun. I just got a little nervous knowing that it could happen when I might need a quick follow up shot on a big buck. It did shoot very good and had an awesome trigger for a "cheap" rifle. It also felt good when shouldered and it carried well too. Everything that you would look for when buying a rifle. After browsing through this forum, and seeing how many people have and enjoy them; I'll be buying another one or two or three.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #13 on:** August 12, 2005, 05:45:41 PM »

Welcome aboard!!

There have been a lot of "non ejectors" bought by us and made good shooters out of at bargain prices cuz the original owners didn't have any "Handi-sense"!!! A good chamber polish and keeping the chamber dry and clean will prevent normal pressure loads from sticking. Max loads have a better than average chance of sticking.

Tim

Fred M · « **Reply #14 on:** August 12, 2005, 06:25:44 PM »

Quick.

Does anybody ever read anything that has been hashed to death on this forum. Why do we have to deal and waste time with the same questions?

I got to do some painting and load up a big bunch of cartridges for a big match next week. So I will take a break from the monotony for a bit.

handirifle · « **Reply #15 on:** August 12, 2005, 06:41:01 PM »

Boy,
Someone's on a nasty mood! :wink:

quickdtoo · « **Reply #16 on:** August 12, 2005, 06:46:39 PM »

I know whatcha mean, Fred.....but it's our duty to educate those that want to learn.....then they can carry on the tradition of sharing info. But....the search feature is a truly under utilized resource here....and most forums for that matter. The other resource that is under utilized is the FAQ sticky along with the other stickys at the top of this forum list.

Tim

Mac11700 · « **Reply #17 on:** August 12, 2005, 07:03:02 PM »

Quote from: Fred M

Quick.

Does anybody ever read anything that has been hashed to death on this forum. Why do we have to deal and waste time with the same questions?

I got to do some painting and load up a big bunch of cartridges for a big match next week. So I will take a break from the monotony for a bit.

Mac

stimpylu32 · « **Reply #18 on:** August 13, 2005, 11:21:07 AM »

Quick ---- You are right about ths FAQ and SEARCH being under used .

BUT,,,, the FAQ are very good and easy to use.

The search on the other hand is a royal pain to use for a quick refrence, also i think it is just overlooked in all the other stuff at the top of the page :cry:

quickdtoo · « **Reply #19 on:** August 13, 2005, 11:39:19 AM »

The Search is real easy to use if you know a couple tricks....

Select the Search for all terms button and then from the drop down, hit the down arrow and highlight the bottom choice, then hit the N key twice, you'll instantly highlight the NEF Centerfire forum, click it and proceed with the search...

You can also right click the Search function at the top of the page and select open in new window so you don't loose the thread you were replying to.

All the tools and resources are at our finger tips, it's just a matter of knowing how and when to use the right tool for the job. :wink:

stimpylu32 · « **Reply #20 on:** August 14, 2005, 02:28:33 PM »

COOL ---- I learned something new , the wife will be amazzzzed

tallyho · « **Reply #21 on:** August 15, 2005, 06:28:52 AM »

Quick,
How about posting the info on how to use the Search function in the FAQ's?

I know I had some frustration, and thought searching was a "PIB" (pain in the butt) until you gave me the info about the best way to use Sarch a few weeks ago... and thanks again.

Cheers
Kerry[/i]

quickdtoo · « **Reply #22 on:** August 15, 2005, 07:06:16 AM »

Thanks Kerry, good idea!! It's a sticky, now....

bajabill · « **Reply #23 on:** August 30, 2005, 10:58:01 AM »

Requesting extractor update

I called about requesting an extractor and they said - sure, however, it will be a "conversion" from the ejector foundation to an extractor. Not the new ground up design extractor.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #24 on:** August 30, 2005, 12:33:25 PM »

Bill, did they mention whether it's a spring driven extractor or a mechanical extractor?

Thx

bajabill · « **Reply #25 on:** August 31, 2005, 03:35:49 AM »

No, but she was very specific that it would be a conversion starting with the structure in place for an ejector setup. Do you know of a way to do a conversion and end up with a non spring driven extractor? I just assumed it would be similar to the conversions people do on their own.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #26 on:** August 31, 2005, 05:31:37 AM »

No, I don't...that's what I suspected though...but it would be interesting to see if they have a way of making it a mechanical extractor.

Thx

BnSC · « **Reply #27 on:** August 31, 2005, 05:45:46 AM »

guys I've got another reason for wanting a extractor. We are required by regulations of our hunting club to not load your weapon until after you are in your treestand and to unload it before coming down. That nice CLICK that the ejector makes is hard to cover up or muffle. The only way I have found to do it involves making your thumb numb..lol

BTW, does the conversion that was referred to earlier get rid of the annoying CLICK or THUNCK or whatever you wish to call it?

mitchell · « **Reply #28 on:** August 31, 2005, 05:57:07 AM »

handi , wait for the extractor , i've had stuck cases cost me a double on a few hunts . don't worry about how fast you can reload either my only triple on yotes came from my 204 ruger (has extractor) and i fired 4 shots you can get them off pretty quick.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #29 on:** August 31, 2005, 06:07:57 AM »

BnSC, the conversion is simple and makes no noise on opening, just lifts the case about ¼" above the chamber....

http://www.brimstonepistoleros.com/Articles/hr-ejector-mod.html