Author Topic: Barrel cleaning (Read 770 times)

Reloader · « **on:** August 09, 2005, 08:20:47 AM »

What kind of solvent do you use for cleaning your barrels? Also do you put any kind of oil in your barrel after you are done? Do you use a brush everytime you clean? :shock: I've tried several different solvents and after cleaning, I always swab out with Hoppes #9 before drying and storing my firearm.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #1 on:** August 09, 2005, 08:39:20 AM »

I used to be a Hoppe's user for 45yrs+, started using Wipeout about a year ago, and recently the Outer's foaming bore cleaners, they work much, much better that Hoppe's or Hoppe's BR ever did. After the bore is clean, a dose of Eezox on a patch in the bore and a wipe down and it's done. No brushing required for the foaming bore cleaners.

Tim

http://www.sharpshootr.com/wipeout.htm

http://www.thegunzone.com/rust.html

http://www.eezox.com/

http://www.eezox.com/faqs.html

Dave in WV · « **Reply #2 on:** August 09, 2005, 08:50:14 AM »

I started using Kroil mixed 50/50 with shooters Choice. I also use Sweet's 7.62 solvent (for copper fouling), and Butches Bore Shine. I always use a brush to get the fouling out. I use a nylon bristle brush. I use carb cleaner on a patch to remove any solvent in the bore and follow up with WD 40 on a mop. I don't put oil in the bore of my stainless firearms.

Questor · « **Reply #3 on:** August 09, 2005, 10:19:04 AM »

I use Sweets 7.62 for copper fouling and J&B bore paste. As a replacement for Hoppes I use a cocktail of mineral spirits and Marvel Mystery Oil and unscented kerosene. Works great.

HL · « **Reply #4 on:** August 10, 2005, 01:30:45 AM »

I have to agree with quickdtoo above about the wipe out.

I cleaned two of my barrels with Hoppe's until the patches came out clean and the barrel looked very mirror like holding it up to the light.

After shooting the wipe out in to the barrel, I found that there was still a great deal of copper fouling still in the barrel. It took two trips of wipeout but the bore is finally clean.

I only use the Hoppes in the field to do quick clean up and finish when I get home with wipeout.

506th · « **Reply #5 on:** August 10, 2005, 04:04:53 AM »

I also use Outers foaming cleaner. Great stuff. I never use a brush anymore.

Question for quickdtoo -

Do you notice a difference between Wipeout and Outers?

quickdtoo · « **Reply #6 on:** August 10, 2005, 05:08:27 AM »

No, they seem to work the same to me, and the Outers has a nice delivery tube and is available at Walmart. I've read that the Wipeout accelerator makes it work even better, but I've not used it. I have found that if I invert the rifle, trigger up about half way through the cleaning cycle, it gets the bore clean in one overnight application if the fouling is very heavy. I think the foam liquifiies and settles in the bottom of the bore having less effect on the top half of the bore.

Tim

Camper · « **Reply #7 on:** August 10, 2005, 07:07:23 AM »

Anyone use Bore Bright from Remington?

Camper

MT4XFore · « **Reply #8 on:** August 10, 2005, 10:31:56 AM »

Quick, check these out please:

www.milfoam.fi/flash/index.html

www.border-barrels.com/shoot-in.htm

Note that the Outers Foam is made by the Finnish company for import to the US.

It does work well, but I have to use Butch's or some other cleaner to remove all the residue from the foam. But the barrel is clean.

Jim

quickdtoo · « **Reply #9 on:** August 10, 2005, 02:22:36 PM »

Hmmm, interesting!! I've not had any problems with residue from the Outers, please elaborate...I just use a couple clean patches, then a couple Eezox patches after them and it's done.

Thanks,

Tim

On the Outers and Wipeout, one difference that I've noticed is the Wipeout says that a preservative oil doesn't have to be used after the Wipeout to prevent rust. Outers doesn't mention that, so they aren't identical cleaners, just similar in how well they work. The only thing I have against Wipeout is it's harder to find and the tube on the Outers works better than the nozzle thingy on the Wipeout.

Reloader · « **Reply #10 on:** August 10, 2005, 07:31:38 PM »

How do you go about getting the foam to fill the bore without it getting into the action and/or other places you don't want it to go? :oops:
I've used it on my Thompson barrels but have hesitated to use it on my other rifles.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #11 on:** August 10, 2005, 07:58:36 PM »

One way is to drill a hole in the head of a case the size of the delivery tube on the Outers cleaner, insert cartridge in the chamber and the tube in the cartridge, apply the foam until it shows at the muzzle. Be sure to rinse the cartridge for its next use...cleans brass real good too!!

Tim

MT4XFore · « **Reply #12 on:** August 11, 2005, 05:08:56 AM »

Quick,
After letting the foam work, when I patch it out naturally the patches push some gunk out, and capture more on the patch. I can patch till I run out of patches without getting a clean patch, unless I help things along a little with Butch's or Hoppe's , or cr-10, or something to get that last bit of black out. After I do, I foam it again and the clean patches stay that way, the foam doesn't change color and everything comes out easier too. I know dang well it's clean then!

Jim

MT4XFore · « **Reply #13 on:** August 11, 2005, 05:13:58 AM »

As for applying the foam, I push the nifty tube on the outers can up into my chamber, making sure to keep the can upright. Using a small amount of pressure to hold the tube in place I hold an old target or piece of paper just in front on the muzzle to deflect the foam into a trash basket. If I dont, I can spray foam clean across the room! Been there and done that! The tube is just the right size for the guns I use. If I had bigger bores, then Quick's method would be the way to go. Then let the foam work.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #14 on:** August 11, 2005, 06:17:08 AM »

Quote from: MT4XFore

Quick,
After letting the foam work, when I patch it out naturally the patches push some gunk out, and capture more on the patch. I can patch till I run out of patches without getting a clean patch, unless I help things along a little with Butch's or Hoppe's , or cr-10, or something to get that last bit of black out. After I do, I foam it again and the clean patches stay that way, the foam doesn't change color and everything comes out easier too. I know dang well it's clean then!

Jim

Hmmm??? :?

Tim

williek · « **Reply #15 on:** August 11, 2005, 02:57:02 PM »

I really agree that Wipeout and Outers cleaners are about the best thing to come along since bottled beer!
There were some really nice tips in here. Drilling out a shell case to fit the nozzle of the foamer was really nice. I also agree that rotating the barrel trigger up after about an hour helps clean the upper one half of the barrel.
I suspect the WipeOut has a slight edge on the outers, but not much. They both work fine.
I also find the outers is a little more inclined to shoot the foam out the end of the barrel and the WipeOut seems to be a little more controlable.
I still use ShooterChoice at the range or Butch's Bore Shine, but once I'm home the foam comes out and really reduces the amount of work for cleaning those copper grabbing barrels of mine. Makes a big job small.
Good hunting,
williek

cal sibley · « **Reply #16 on:** August 12, 2005, 05:06:05 PM »

I think the biggest deterent to rifle accuracy is copper fouling. Copper will form on any little pit or pimple in a barrel. It also forms in layers, often being covered by other types of fouling. I've had rifles that have taken the better part of a year to get all the copper out. I use JB Bore Compound to expose any remaining copper, then Sweets to get it out. This is the major virtue of custom stainless barrels, that they are very smooth inside so the copper has nothing to attach itself to. That in itself almost justifies their price. Just one mans opinion. Best wishes.

Cal - Montreal