Author Topic: 445 super mag deal update (Read 1574 times)

jeff223 · « **on:** August 15, 2005, 03:02:40 PM »

i got my first payment today and i think i will be getting a few more tomorrow.the deal is on.

if any more of you 44mag owners want in just shoot me a PM and i will give you my address.the reamer will be here in about 3 weeks and you can get on the list

MSP Ret · « **Reply #1 on:** August 16, 2005, 12:42:21 AM »

A question Jeff, or anyone else, can you shoot .44 Mags and .445 Super Mags out of a .444 Marlin? I found a new or like new .444 Marlin at a small gun store in Maine last fall but could not think of a reason to get it since I have a 45-70. If I can shoot several other rounds out of the .444 Marlin I just might see if it's still on the rack. Besides .444 Marlins any idea what other calibers can be fired out of a .444 chambering? Thanks....<><.... :grin:

jeff223 · « **Reply #2 on:** August 16, 2005, 01:52:43 AM »

sorry you cant shoot he 445sm out of a 444 marlin.

you can shoot the 44mags out of the 445sm.its the same kind of deal as the 357mags out of the 357max

ONE HOLE 4570 · « **Reply #3 on:** August 16, 2005, 01:56:28 AM »

444 only because of the tapper from a 45 colt base to a 44 neck If you could there would be a looong jump like the 45/410 barrel

MSP Ret · « **Reply #4 on:** August 16, 2005, 06:05:10 AM »

OK and thanks guys, I thought I had found a reason to buy another Handi!!!!....<><.... :-D

quickdtoo · « **Reply #5 on:** August 16, 2005, 06:13:12 AM »

Quote from: MSP Ret

OK and thanks guys, I thought I had found a reason to buy another Handi!!!!....<><.... :-D

Reason?

? That's something that applies to the logical and normal person, not a Handiholic!!! :-D :-D :-D

Varminter · « **Reply #6 on:** August 16, 2005, 11:47:47 AM »

Didn't no if the deal was still on. I'll get mine in the mail tomorrow

lik2hunt · « **Reply #7 on:** August 16, 2005, 12:32:00 PM »

Sent mine today.

jeff223 · « **Reply #8 on:** August 16, 2005, 01:02:39 PM »

we have 9 people wanting in on the deal so far.i have one payment so far but from the PMs i got the rest are on the way.

Varminter · « **Reply #9 on:** August 16, 2005, 01:06:53 PM »

Now i just have to get the T-handle and some cuttin oil.

Nixter · « **Reply #10 on:** August 16, 2005, 01:48:38 PM »

Any brand name suggestions as to what cuttin' oil to use? Rest my soul to ease...

Thanks in advance.

Nixter. the new gunsmith type....

I appreciate your help.

.308 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 17, 2005, 04:51:08 AM »

I've been away for a while, what have I missed, and what do I need to do to get in on the deal?

Jeff could you shoot me either a pm or an email, to catch me up?

Thanks

jeff223 · « **Reply #12 on:** August 17, 2005, 05:39:20 AM »

308 i will shoot you a PM with my address so you can send $15.00 for the rental.we now have a total of 10 :grin:

myarmor · « **Reply #13 on:** August 17, 2005, 06:02:23 AM »

My curiosity is getting the best of me. Can anyone give me a little more info on this. I mean why I should do it, what this cartridge looks like, ballistics, etc..
Is this a wildcat and do you specifically have to reload for it?
Cause I have seen no commercial ammo for it.
:oops: Sorry, my ignorance is in pistol cartridges.

jeff223 · « **Reply #14 on:** August 17, 2005, 06:19:55 AM »

the 445sm kind of falls inbetween the 44mag and the 444 Marlin.i hear there is two places where you can get ammo from but the way i look at it this is a handload caliber.the 445sm is case is longer than the 44mag case.what the reamer does is make the chamber longer and it will also cut a new throat or shorten it some if your chamber is long throated.this is a good round for a single shot pistol or a rifle where the extra length barrel will get you some extra FPS.there will be a step up in recoil from the 44mag but in a rifle you wont notice it much.

this rechamber is a simple one where a guy can do it right at home.same deal as a 357mag to 357max.

you want in PM me for my address

Varminter · « **Reply #15 on:** August 17, 2005, 10:55:48 AM »

The 445 supermag is capable of low end 45-70 velocties. It is primarily a handloader cartridge but there is 2 places that have ammo fot it.

http://www.cpcartridge.com/performance.htm

got to find the other link.....i think the cheapest box of 20 is around $28 a box.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #16 on:** August 17, 2005, 11:02:19 AM »

Bullseye Guns used to have Dan Wesson 445SM ammo listed but not today....

lik2hunt · « **Reply #17 on:** August 17, 2005, 12:37:37 PM »

As soon as D41mag sends me his mailing info I'll be sending him the $$$ for his 44mag barrel.

So I'm gonna be good to go when the reamer arrives and it comes my turn to turn. I'm pleased.

jeff223 · « **Reply #18 on:** August 17, 2005, 03:19:51 PM »

you guys sending money to me

please put your forum name along with the payment so i can keep things straight here.if you sent payment without your forum name pm me with your real name

thankyou

DPRinks · « **Reply #19 on:** August 17, 2005, 03:39:47 PM »

Making cases should be very easy, just use .30-40 or .303Brit cases cut off the the correct length and size with a .44 Mag. die.. the rim will have to be turned down, but that can be done with a drill motor and a file, just put a bullet in the mouth, chuck in a 1/2" drill motor and spin slowly while holding a file on one side and a wooden backup on the other side.
The rim must also be thinned about .005", can just be done on the end and then use pistol primers rather than rifle primers.

ONE HOLE 4570 · « **Reply #20 on:** August 17, 2005, 03:47:41 PM »

Sounds like alot of work I think i'll just buy some starline ar 35 a 100 or so

myarmor · « **Reply #21 on:** August 17, 2005, 03:59:44 PM »

Well sence I was just able to shoot it today, I think I will pass right now and maybe do it at another time. Mine still needs a little touch up at the moment. Thanks for the offer, though

Ditchdigger · « **Reply #22 on:** August 17, 2005, 04:39:16 PM »

Midway has 445 brass for $30.99 per 100 and $145 for 500. You guys are in for a suprise when you chrono these things. Mine is a little closer to 444 Marlin speeds than the 44 mag. Digger

quickdtoo · « **Reply #23 on:** August 17, 2005, 04:50:31 PM »

Duh!!! :oops: For some reason, my mind switched gears to the 500 S&W brass.....Starline 445SM brass is $142.50 for 500....

http://www.starlinebrass.com/pricelist.html

.308 · « **Reply #24 on:** August 17, 2005, 05:01:01 PM »

Jeff,
The check's in the mail.

:wink:

youngbdv · « **Reply #25 on:** August 17, 2005, 07:34:11 PM »

I think the .445 Dan Wesson was designed to compete with the .454 Casull .

jeff223 · « **Reply #26 on:** August 18, 2005, 12:49:46 AM »

the 445sm will be a WOODS HAMMER for sure.i cant wait till the reamer getts here.

Nixter · « **Reply #27 on:** August 18, 2005, 08:46:01 AM »

Payment sent, postman was a bit late today, thunderstorms might have slowed him down a bit...

Thanks again Jeff for putting this together, just like the mold deal...

Now to find that matching revolver... :roll:

Nixter

myarmor · « **Reply #28 on:** August 18, 2005, 08:49:30 AM »

If this procedure is done, how will it effect accuracy when shooting normal 44Mags?
Or is it kinda one of those, you have to wait and see ordeals?

jeff223 · « **Reply #29 on:** August 18, 2005, 10:45:17 AM »

doing this rechamber might help you out accuracy wise.the reason the 357mag to 357max deal got started was to correct a long throated nef factory chamber.the accuracy improved after the rechamber was done on most of those.the 44mag to 445sm is the same kind of deal.once the rechamber is done on these barrels you should be able to seat the boolit just off the lands.when you do this it offen helps out with the accuracy.a few barrels seem to like the long jump to the lands but most shoot better with the boolits seated just off the lands.i dont know why that is but thats the way it is from what i have found.i cant really say just how the 44mags will shoot for you once the rechamber is done.my barrel will never see another 44mag round once the rechamber is done

only two payments so far for this rechamber.must be there are a number of them on their way

those two are from zip codes,

17241 no forum name on this one
67060 forum name warf