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Follow Through...what's that????
« on: August 16, 2005, 06:26:00 AM »
Ok for some time now I have been working on (and being told that I was not doing it) "Follow Through". I thought that because I was seeing the animals leave the rail that I was getting better, heck I even see bullet marks on well hit rams and a few pigs... Not bad I thought for a hacker.

Then yesterday while reading an article from Gary Anderson that Alston was kind enough to share (has shared it with me before but my feeble mind could not comprehend it at the time I guess) I read a blurb that made a light come on...


"He made me maintain trigger pressure while under recoil (and therefore in follow through), and I was not to release the trigger and start on the next shot until I had regained the aiming area. This was HARD as it broke habits of fifteen years or more."

I had never seen follow through explained in that manner, I was breaking the shot and releasing the trigger in one continual motion. So I go to my practice session last night with my air rifle and decided to try this out. WOW, all I can say. I don't care if my scores plummet for a month, this will make me a better shooter. Instead of breaking the shot and the pig still being in the SCOPE while the pellet impacts it, I now was watching the DOT INSIDE the pig as I could see a brief glimpse of the pellet as it flew into the pig... BIG DIFFERENCE. I then purposefully "paused" (with the trigger pressure still on as I broke the shot) and continue to "aim" at the pig.

Is this typical "follow through" or does the recoil of a .22 vary from that of a 10M match air rifle?

Can't wait to try it at the range....

Chicken

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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2005, 07:35:28 AM »
Wow, this is the kind of stuff I've been looking for.  I did an net search on Gary Anderson but I didn't find a article.  Do you have a link to the article that you could share with us?

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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2005, 08:14:10 AM »
Quote from: AJJ
An excellent thread. Thanks to all. Here are two good essays on the trigger.
www.pilkguns.com/c15af.htm
www.pilkguns.com/c5.htm

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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2005, 09:45:54 AM »
Those articles are by Warren Potter, a coach writing about pistol shooting (but I don't see why most of the trigger advice wouldn't apply to rifles.) Gary Anderson and many of the other greats lectured the Juniors at an Olympics team trials in the '70's and the lectures were transcribed and sold in two volumns as "Schiessport Schull" I and II. They were expensive, available only by mail and I don't know if they're still available but I'll find out. I'll gladly snail mail selected excerpts to anyone interested. There are talks by Jack Writer, Lanny Bassham, Margaret Murdock, Lones Wigger, Bill Pullum, Dave Kimes and others. Great historical document for a fan and more than a few tidbits for shooters. I think it's Anderson who stresses that thinking about follow-through BEFORE the shot breaks helps him to break it cleanly.
There's an interesting follow-through drill in "Ways of the Rifle," probably the best technical shooting book around. It involves removing the rear iris of an aperture sight, letting the target blur, and just watching the front aperture rise and fall in recoil (and then plotting each shot, the muzzle movement, not the hit. We don't care where these shots hit.) Bet we could do this with the dot and use the cheap ammo, too! It's hard just to learn to watch it and even harder to make the muzzle rise straight up and fall straight back in the same pattern...a very grueling exercise according to the book.
"Man, folks," (as Bill Calfee would say) I bet if we did enough of these very simple exercises, balance exercises, little dryfiring and what not, we'd "...find points coming thick and fast."

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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2005, 11:22:29 AM »
Alston,

Give me HALF a chance and I will hack anything to pieces. Thanks for clearing up the who said what...LOL

Chicken...

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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2005, 11:26:53 AM »
AJJ and Chicken;

Thanks for the help.  I really got off track in Wyoming in the wind and I was having a hard time getting my squeeze and follow through back on track.  

I read the articles and tried and failed.  I quit shooting for a week to let the bad habits soften up and then started dry firing following Kathy Windsteads remarks about dry firing 8/1 over shooting.  While dry firing I concentrated on watching the dot respond: rising, falling, etc without actually trying to control the gun.

Presto, back on track!  I've still got a long way to go but I'm feelin' a lot better.

Thanks.

DWL

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« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2005, 11:50:52 AM »
I searched the internet for the people and books mentioned in the thread and could only find Lanny Bassham's book.  I'll buy that but where do I find "Ways of the Rifle" and "Schiessport Schull" or any other good books.  I've got all winter to work on technique.

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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2005, 04:57:39 AM »
dwl, you can get this book at the following places:

http://www.nealjguns.com/ss_store/BooksandVideos-ss3.html

http://www.championshooters.com/start.html

http://www.pilkguns.com/books.htm

The below information is copied from another forum:

"You can try you library and see if they participate in the inter-library loan program, where they can borrow books from libraries from around the country. Where I live there was a $1.00 fee for this. It sure beat paying $50.00 for the book. As I recall there are two libraries in the US that have the book. One is in Ohio and the other is in Louisiana."

I have now just received the one from Ohio.
Tedfl