Author Topic: 1 3/4 (Read 659 times)

.17HMR · « **on:** August 17, 2005, 02:59:27 PM »

I have some 1 3/4 dukes and was wondering if they could hold coyote

I plan to add them to my fox line but need to know if they will hold the occasional coyote

wormbobskey · « **Reply #1 on:** August 18, 2005, 12:27:31 PM »

Those traps will work for coyotes, but I would modify them with a base-plate and D-ring set-up with a short chain with in-line swivels and double stake set-up. I also laminate the jaws to help stiffen them up a little. Off-sets are another thing you can add, but thats a personnal preferance. #3 double long springs also make great coyote and fox traps. Worm

trappnman · « **Reply #2 on:** August 18, 2005, 01:48:08 PM »

short chains and modified nightlatch are a must- as is packing the inside of the jaws solid with this trap.

been using Duke 1.75s unmodifed other than this for well over 1000 coyotes with NO loss of coyotes due to trap failure. In my mind- the best 1.75 on the market.

Tim B · « **Reply #3 on:** August 19, 2005, 03:04:53 AM »

I agree the duke 1.75 is a great yote trap. I dont base plate mine but i do get rid of the stock chain and add my own which consists of 3 swivels and 3 solid links equaling about 10 inches and attatch it to the base through the hohe thats alread there. I replaced the stock springs on all but the bran new ones with music wire springs....the #2 montgomery springs fit them great.

I also put beefer kits on some of them this year just as an experiement...to see how i like it and to see if its worth the extra $$

Speaking of springs---trappin man, do you use the stock springs at all?? if so how long? Ive noticed after 2 years they lose a lot of power.

Tim B

trappnman · « **Reply #4 on:** August 19, 2005, 05:50:41 AM »

Tim- have been using losts of my Dukes for going on 15 and even more years- and have never replaced a spring.

I do take care of the traps- they only get used 6 weeks a year, and are cleaned of crud and mud before being put away.

Never had a spring problem yet.

Never used to worry about the chains, but 2 years ago, had 3 chains break in 2 days- how odd! and once I relaized what was happening, I changed the rest of my chains to #3 machine. These could well have been on my older traps.

For me, biggest key by far, by far- is packing the inside of the jaws so hard, the dirt does not compress. Then, you get the trap to fire when the coyote has just about a full paw on the pan- resulting in a trap full of paw.

jim-NE · « **Reply #5 on:** August 27, 2005, 05:26:37 AM »

Just bought 6 of the new Duke 1.75's 4x's, and I am convinced these will work very well on coyotes. They come with a stout rod pre-welded to the bottom and center-mounted chain to this rod. The springs seem nice and strong.
I did pull the chain off and replaced the stock components with more robust 4-way swivels (the stock Duke swivels are made from thinner steel material, and distort if twisted or pounded on I've noticed).
I like a short length of machine chain also instead of the twist link that comes stock.
I filed down the pan notch, dog (both are machine cut-stamped out of the box, and don't line up well at all). I like a very short throw on the pan, and a nice, crisp, well-matched trigger assembly. You have to take some of the travel/slop out of that dog also where it attaches to the trap frame.
Other than that, I think these will do very well for me. I'll let you know how they perform for me this season.
jim-NE

mallarddrake85 · « **Reply #6 on:** September 11, 2005, 12:23:06 PM »

those dukes will hold anything. :-D :grin: . we modify em w/ the standard 1/8" baseplate and off center D ring swivel, laminations, and short 8" chain w/ 2 swivels and a double stake rig. we set the pan tension to bout 2-2 1/2 lbs. and they hold great.

depending on the size of the average animal, in this case coyotes, we remove bout a thumbs width of metal from the outside of the jaw where so that the springs will close much higher giving ya a tighter, sturdier hold.(learned that trick from watchin the Leggets video.)

in case your asking why the offcenter swivel... when a coyote gets caught, he is gonna jump. duh.. but w/ an center swivel he is gonna go straignt up and put pressure on your double stake rig, which we all know sometime need replacing. w/ an offcenter swivel, he will jump and it will catch him in mid air and set him in deeper toward the jaw... he aint comming out.

pintaildrake · « **Reply #7 on:** September 16, 2005, 06:30:56 PM »

i like the dukes, but you cant beat the Northwoods 1 3/4 !