,lol, well guess what for those reasons i just came back from my local gunshop and i know own a glock 17 :wink: well i hope i do not regret it but i do not think i will, i bought it also because of the accessories that are availale i think i may get a tac light and the carbine conversion, and how people say that you cannot hold a laser sight still, well she slid on on the rail and i held it pretty darn still and pulled the trigger"empty of course", also the xd will not be available for a long time is what all the shopos are saying, i like the glock though