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Offline Paul5388

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« on: August 20, 2005, 04:38:26 PM »
Here's a post I made on another forum about my "new" receiver that is dedicated to a .30-30 barrel.  I called NEF and at first they said it was a rimfire frame, but when I told them it had a 12 gauge barrel on it they changed to a 20" 12 gauge as the original configuration.  I suppose that could be, but it's a blued receiver and the synthetic stock set has sling swivels, so I don't really know what it is (the .357 Mag for comparison is on a case hardened shotgun receiver).
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Yep, a diamond in the rough!

Here's what it looks like with the .357 Mag on a shotgun frame above it.



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I brushed the barrel pretty well before today's shooting, so there was a need for a shot or two to get things to settle in.  I went back to the 16.0 gr 2400 load with an air cooled 311291 at 100 yards that looked like this 1.5".



The very first shot out of the clean barrel is visible on the next target on the edge of the right hand side.  The two targets were basically touching.

After that, I shot 27.0 gr "IMR 4895" with a 150 gr Win "30-30" bullet.  With the change in powder the first shot was off the paper and the second shot came almost to where the last three grouped at about 1.5".



I don't have the barrel floating in this stock set, so that may help shrink the groups a little more.   :grin:  


I'll probably put a 3-12X 50 mm on it with a 3" sunshade.  That way people might think it'll shoot further than 100 yards!   :eek:

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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2005, 04:47:23 PM »
Been wondering how you been doing with that, but the heat has been putting me off from shooting, so I figured it had you down too. Glad to see you still liking that. The 2400 load looks really nice.
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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2005, 05:02:53 PM »
JPH,

Yes indeed, it's a fine barrel!  That's why I thought it needed it's own receiver.

I think the 2400 loads are doing exceptional well with cast bullets.  I don't think I've had any at the various load levels from 12.0 gr to 20.0 gr that haven't shot pretty good.  They're Minute of Deer for sure!

That quote above came from page 8 at this site.  The frame was originally discussed on this site.

At 104 degrees today, it was a little warm to be shooting, but one of my grandchildren will probably be using this gun during deer season and it needs to be right for the purpose.

BTW, this stock set had a piece of steel bar about 1/2" square by 10" long in it with foam to keep it from rattling around.  I don't know if it's factory or not, but it's the first time I've seen anything like that.

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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2005, 05:31:25 PM »
Yep, that bar is a factory deal, used to add weight to keep the gun from knocken da brains out :eek:
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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2005, 02:00:35 AM »
That first group is spot on, Paul.  That and the 3031 seem almost on a par.
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2005, 08:01:29 PM »
Stuffit,

Sometimes I lose track of what I have already done and need a little jump start!  :shock:  I think 3031 was where I was going to check the DuPont variety against the IMR variety.  :roll:

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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2005, 01:44:38 AM »
If this helps, the only stocks from the factory I have heard of that have the steel bar added to the stock to add weight and reduce felt recoil are certain 12 gauge shotgun stocks. Hope this helps and does not complicate the matter....<><.... :grin:
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2005, 05:37:45 AM »
The synthetic stocked stainless 30-06 that I bought from Kufford had the bar in it. He commented that it was the heaviest synthetic stocked rifle he'd ever hefted!!! It's even heavier now with the laminated stock set on it!!

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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2005, 07:02:26 AM »
Well, it looks like I have another SB1 with a low pressure rifle barrel on it.  Of course, I'm not putting too much strain on it with 16.0 gr of 2400 and a cast bullet!   :lol:

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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2005, 05:49:34 PM »
I put a new scope on the .30-30 last night, so today was time to sight it in.  After getting it shooting pretty good with  cast 311291 173 gr bullets with 16.0 gr of Alliant 2400, I just played a little with some off beat  bullets.

This group, in the upper right hand, was 150 gr Rem PSP Core-Lokt with Win LR primer and 16.0 gr Alliant 2400 in neck sized R-P brass at 100 yards.



It was about 103 degrees when I shot that group, so I'll have to see what it looks like when it gets a little cooler.