Author Topic: Scope for Silhoette (Read 2375 times)

bigatupa · « **on:** August 25, 2005, 02:38:27 AM »

What the most used magnification for Centerfire Silhouette Shooting.
Thanks in advance.
Biga

GeoNLR · « **Reply #1 on:** August 25, 2005, 04:46:44 AM »

This is kinda like do you like -

Skinny women w/ no hips VS Corn fed farm girls VS blah blah blah...

Opinions...we all have them.

Some will say shoot on powers as low as 6... they talk about shooting spots... Heck I can't see the targets on 6X...LOL

I would say most of us fall into one of 2 camps

1- Premier scopes boosted to 40X / BR36 scopes

2- 6.5-20 shot on 20X / T-24 scopes

Things most of us are looking for in a silhouette scope

Dot(Something in the 1/4 to 1/2MOA range)

The maginification range we want

1/4 moa adjustments - keeps you from having to leave 1- "rotation" on elevation

Price

(Edited to add) Tracking "return to zero"

Weaver came out with the answer for alot of folks with the new 24X scope they are selling for around $369-$425. It's a "factory" silhouette scope for less than $400. Tracking is what you are buying, the optics are in line with the price IMOHO. I have looked through about 10 of them..thre were differences... There are some real supporters of the bushnell optics here, but I don't think they are 1/4 min adjustments and you have to send off to get a dot bigger than 1/8 min?

Someone else will chime in...

dave imas · « **Reply #2 on:** August 25, 2005, 04:59:23 AM »

skinny girls, no hips.

if you are new, i'd start with a variable... 6x24 or so. gives you some flexibility to grow. sightron, bushnell, leuopold... and i would agree with everything else our good friend has suggested. tracking is #1 priority.
dave

eroyd · « **Reply #3 on:** August 25, 2005, 10:52:10 AM »

It might be interesting to have a poll, even more so on the female thing.

From what I've seen, popular scopes are Weaver and Leupold fixed 24x and variables topping out at the 20-24x range, but some of these are boosted. Seems to be a real onslaught of the Leupold 30mm tube scopes but I'm not sure what the advantage of them is in this game; they're heavier, we don't really need much more than ~15 mins. elevation and the game is shot in good daylight.

nanaimoman · « **Reply #4 on:** August 25, 2005, 01:32:52 PM »

Hey eroyd, you might remember I was looking for a fixed 36X scope at the last Nanaimo match. Well I've decided to go with a Weaver T24 fixed 24X scope instead. It has the target dot, and that was one of the main features I was really looking for.
Also I was able to finally locate a Anschutz 54.18 MS in Nanaimo, so if you know of anyone who might be interested in my modded heavy 1803 please let me know.
Barry aka nanaimoman

Jason · « **Reply #5 on:** August 25, 2005, 07:58:58 PM »

I would go with a Sightron SII 6-24X with the dot reticle if I were just starting out or the Weaver T24 or Sightron SII 24X fixed power scopes with dot reticles for more advanced shooters. The Weaver (T-series) and Sightron (SII series) adjustments systems are the best in the industry, with the Sightron being just slightly better from my experience. Both have very good glass, but not as good as the top-end European glass. The Sightron will probably be a bit cheaper, as well. I'm currently trying to scrape my pennies together to pick up one of those two Sightron scopes. I just can't make up my mind which one I want.

ajj · « **Reply #6 on:** August 26, 2005, 08:51:33 AM »

I've always used 24x and have become comfortable with it but I'm considering going down a little. As long as the dot doesn't cover too much of the target you don't have to worry about going too low but it is very easy to err on the high side. Scopes magnify the wobbles along with the target. When the wobbles get too visible we tend to overreact to them. Higher scope power makes the target LOOK bigger but improving the hold actually DOES make the target bigger. A better hold increases both the target area and the time "available" for trigger break. Use the power that is best for your hold.

capsnapper · « **Reply #7 on:** October 30, 2005, 04:55:33 AM »

Is it only the T model Weavers that have the much praised "Mirco-Track" tracking system or do all Weaver scopes have it? I am considering a V24.

ppk1 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 31, 2005, 12:22:17 AM »

If you are thinking of using the V24 for silhouette shooting it is not a suitable choice. Have you been to a match?
Silhouette shooting requires that you change the elevation and parallax for each animal distance with reliability and ease.
Not to say that you will see some scopes without turrets,but models with turrets simular to the T24 dominate by 99%. It's just the best choice and after you shoot a match you will see why.

capsnapper · « **Reply #9 on:** October 31, 2005, 12:59:57 AM »

Actually I have shot in matches but that was 25 years ago and I have been away from shooting since. I am now returning to the fold and am trying to learn the scope scene of today. Back then Leupold ruled the roost, B&L was up there too, Redfield was popular, Weaver somewhere below the middle but outsold everything, and Bushnell and Tasco were synonymous with junk. Apparently the last two have since redeemed themselves to some extent. Can you steer me to any good review articles on scopes. As far as the V24, I need a scope for a hunting rifle and thought it might do double duty for a certain modified silhouette game that is shot here locally. I'm sure you are right about the knobs. But is it only the T weavers that have "micro-track. Fortunately I still have all three powers of the old T Weaver which track amazingly well. thanks

hh4064 · « **Reply #10 on:** October 31, 2005, 03:09:36 AM »

I agree with NLR it is the chevy/ford thing..... Personally when I started I decided with the 6.5x20x40 leupold>>>because I wanted to start out around 10x.. If you are like me you will notice that your hold will improve alot over a season...As my hold improved I (of course) turned the power up. I found myself very quickly shooting 20x.... Then when the snow started flying Sent it to premier and had it boosted to 18x40.... Most times I leave it on 40x. But on that day I cant seem to hold real tight I will turn it down a bit... Or the days when there is a ton of mirage I will turn it down... Some will argue that fixed power is better, I can't dispute their claim... But it sure is nice to be able to turn it down when you have too..
what ever you decide good luck and good shooting
Mike Jensen
Lapeer Michigan

Tony Tello · « **Reply #11 on:** October 31, 2005, 04:59:43 AM »

capsnapper, as far as I know Weaver scopes that have "Micro-Track" say so on the scope. Their KT model is a good compromise for hunting and target shooting since they have somewhat smaller knobs with a covers.

The V model you have more than likely does not have the Micro-Track adjustments unless the scope is marked and indicates so. Some of the older hunting scopes made in 80's do have the Micro-Track adjustments.

If you can find a Tasco World Class Plus and do not have weight issues with your rifle repeat very well. Sightron is another scope brand preferred by some silhouette shooters because of how well they repeat and are not as expensive as Leupold scopes but for your money the new Weaver T model and the Elite Bushnell scopes may be your best bet.

PJ Smyth · « **Reply #12 on:** October 31, 2005, 10:20:02 PM »

Look and see and shoot different scopes and reticles to see what you like and can afford. I first bought a Nikon Stirling Target master 8 to 32 with a 1/4 or 3/8 dot for my Rimfire and then put it on my 308 heavy rifle and it was great for the money and is now back on my 52 winchester heavy Rimfire and is great 12 month ago i bought a P70 out door Fienwerkbau and after looking and trying many scopes I liked the Leupold ERF 6.5 to 20 Boosted to 18 to 40 with a 1/2 min Dot by Premier reticles in Winchester Virginia and it is PERFECT I now have two others for my new 7MM BR heavy and 308 hunter with quick release high mounts that I also use on a switch barrel 17Cal / 223 Imp for fox hunting,light game and also club field rifle competition. I like how your eye follows the dot and you squeeze off as you come on to the desired spot. Some people like Dots others like duplex you have to try then buy. Good luck regards Phill

powding · « **Reply #13 on:** November 01, 2005, 01:26:24 AM »

I want to live in the same state Dick Thomas does. How do I get there?

powding

nomad · « **Reply #14 on:** November 01, 2005, 02:37:21 AM »

I'd be verrrrrrrrry careful about one of those 'states' if it had a Winchester already in it... :eek:

GeoNLR · « **Reply #15 on:** November 01, 2005, 05:06:10 AM »

I can not believe that I, the ACE speller of the forum, had to "step in" and edit a post for spelling to keep it from getting out of hand.... Ernie, don't make us call Sandy! You 2 took to that soft ball in a hurry!!!....

Chicken

~Putting his guns away for now~

nomad · « **Reply #16 on:** November 01, 2005, 05:20:30 AM »

It's not my fault if one of those 'inverts' down there puts salacious posts on this otherwise wholesome, family-oriented site! :twisted:

PJ Smyth · « **Reply #17 on:** November 02, 2005, 12:36:34 PM »

Sorry I can only imagine what I must have typed. :oops: I should have used spell check, and I should have spelt Virginia correctly because I lived in Richmond for a short time in 1980. I tried to PM but it didn't go through so I had to re type and having a PHD in Computers ( Push Here Dummy) I am not the best. See even when someone stuffs up you dive in and help.
Thanks All' yah all.
If some of you come to Australia at some time, we can teach you to speek PROPER (lol) and drink Beer and Bundy. Regards Phill

nomad · « **Reply #18 on:** November 02, 2005, 03:04:51 PM »

Phil,

I used to deliver Piper and Beech aircraft down there from the factories. Into Sydney, Melbourne and even Albury once or twice. Almost 'visited' Lord Howe one night when one engine went south 1,000 miles out of Fiji! (Fortunately, that night I had one with an 'extra' engine -- especially since AFAIK LH was served, then, via flying boat and didn't have an airport that I could have used!)
I know how to drink Beer and Bundy; but, if I ever get back there, I'll be happy to let you buy me one or two and teach me...again! :wink:

GeoNLR · « **Reply #19 on:** November 03, 2005, 03:30:13 AM »

Quote from: PJ Smyth

Sorry I can only imagine what I must have typed. :oops: I should have used spell check, and I should have spelt Virginia correctly because I lived in Richmond for a short time in 1980. I tried to PM but it didn't go through so I had to re type and having a PHD in Computers ( Push Here Dummy) I am not the best. See even when someone stuffs up you dive in and help.
Thanks All' yah all.
If some of you come to Australia at some time, we can teach you to speek PROPER (lol) and drink Beer and Bundy. Regards Phill

PJ,

Have you traveled to the states w/ a firearm? How hard would it be to shoot in AUS for someone from the US. I met the folks from AUS at Winnie this year (Or was it last?), I don't remimber if they brought their own rifles or borrowed ones from the states...

I have ALLWAYS wanted to visit your country and I can see a future family vacation / Silhouette shoot... I can see the snickering now ....

"Man that guy flew this far to shoot that bad...."

LOL

Chicken

ajj · « **Reply #20 on:** November 03, 2005, 05:55:40 AM »

George: I think you are speaking of Anthony and Lynne Finn who, I believe, have done it both ways, bringing their rifles on one trip and borrowing the last (because they were going to spend a month or so touring the country and didn't want to drag rifles around.) So, I think, it's doable, but probably involves a lot of paper.
I've always wanted to see Australia, too. Let's tell our wives we have to go on a secret mission.
What's Bundy?

PJ Smyth · « **Reply #21 on:** November 04, 2005, 09:01:37 AM »

Bundy (Bundaberg Rum) is a dark rum you mix with Cola or Dry and their is an Over Proof version that does the job real well.It made in Queensland Up near Anthony Finn.
I will talk to Anthony and also Stuart Elliot From the Bench resters he does lots of travel for competition and get back to you on the laws and regulations.
The best time to come to a shoot would be the Australia Day Shoot in Canberra on the second last weekend of January each year. the shoot is most probably the second biggest shoot of the year next to the Nationals Air Rim Fire Saturday and centre fire Sunday. I t is high Summer time then and the best time for other travel. Arrive to Shoot then travel accommodation cost are starting to reduce at the end of the holiday's. You would fly into Sydney which is on the coast and is a Harbour City. Canberra is the national capital, 45 Min Flight or 300 klm 3 hours nice easy expressway drive( with one $ 3.00 Toll as you leave Sydney) south/ south east. The Range is 10 mins from the airport on the same access road Majura lane road,
( turn right out of the car park go 1 mile turn right go 5 or 6 min turn right into Majura Shooting Complex.) the range had Gun storage.
Their is good accommodation of different Styles, ranging only 5 to 10 min Drive from the range max with shops and super markets all in the same area restaurant and eating as well. Their is a Gun shop in the same area if you need anything. Regards Phill Email me for any info you need