coyotes

[Tim B]

When I start on coyotes this year it will be directly after the deer season.  As you probably know the coyotes will be used to feeding on deer already due to the criples, and all the scraps people dump where ever they can.  Last year at one bridge culvert i found 9 deer carcus's.

To the question---I have some old deer meat a guy at work wanted rid of---i made some bait by mixing chunks with some castor and slightly tainting it.  I also saved some fresh.  I plan to use some in dirtholes, and then make a few post or flat sets as well.  
What are your experiences in this situation and or HOW WOULD YOU LURE THE SETS?
Thanks as always--
Tim B

[coyotero]

It depends on in what part of the coyotes"season" your deer season ends in.Here I believe the deer season speeds up dispersal of the young coyotes.The adult pair pull down into their "core" area in their home territory.They aren't checking the boundaries and they aren't as active as when the family units are intact.The young coyotes form aggregations(packs) and run the best gamed up areas,they kill most of what they eat now.Find these areas and it's time to kill large numbers of coyotes fairly quick.Baits and lures that are based on "fresh products" seem for me to work better .In my area this is usually late November,when deer season is over and keeping traps running is a gamble.I usually am in the snaring mode by then.We get a lot of freezing rain and wet snow and I can't keep traps working consistently.Deer gut piles around here hardly last 48 hours.I have used deer scraps to catch an occasional coyote I have educated.Just my experience though other areas may be different. :grin:

[wormbobskey]

If it were me, I would look for these carcuss dumps and keep an eye on them. We have certain roads around here where every year people dump deer parts and just about every year I catch coyotes coming to these deer dumps. All those smells in the air attract every coyote in the area and than some. I use a lot of old deer meat and have even gotten some road kills off of the county game wardens office. They have to see the dead deer to make sure it wasn't poached and than will issue you a permit to posses the deer. I also use any old meat that has been in the freezer to long. I let it taint a little to get more smells out before I add a perservative. Some I keep fresh for early in the season and some I add extra ingrediants to help intice the canines even more. Just my 2 cents. Worm

[jim-NE]

I'd use a few bait sets for change ups, but don't overlook post sets and gland lure at flat sets this time of year. If you have that much food supply around, and the coyotes are working the carcasses, you also have some territorial events occuring. Nine carcasses is a big feed station. My experience is some coyotes will trot right on by a dirthole sets to get to a carcass pile like that. But, many coyotes will want to be in the loop as to what other coyotes are also working their carcass find, too. A post set along natural travel routes and established trails to such 'dump' sites works very well. Change them up and use a non-coyote urine also such as fox, bobcat, or even mink urine. I've even had very good luck with just domestic dog urine at post sets, too. (I'm not kidding...)
Food may not always be on their mind if there is a lot of food availability in the area...but territorial markings are always of interest.
Anyway Tim, take it for what its worth. We always have so much driving, stomping, shooting, etc. going on during deer season around here. And, historically, every passing truck will also stop to shoot at a coyote. They seem to get a little high strung (at least moreso than they normally are) and I see noticeably less visits at my food sets after deer season. I am not a coyote nor claim to be able to read their minds...but I always thought that between all the activity in their territories plus the new food opportunities in gut piles, crippled deer, etc. that the new food must be correlated to my decreases in food set visits. But, my post sets, or any set that I have urine or a good gland lure at seem to still do well.
I set up near a pile of dead cow carcasses one season. Never had one food set touched that entire season...and I even tried switching to beef and beef tallow thinking I could "match the hatch" so to speak. Nothing. But I always make my sets in gangs of 3: one bait set, one post set with urine, and one flat set or at least a very completely different looking set. All about 15 to 20 paces apart. The post sets connected 75% more than the flat sets (and whatever other set that was non-food attraction). I also had some success with snares and blind trail sets at this location. Again, I never had a dirthole or food-lured or baited set touched that entire season in that location. And the mink and fox pee lured sets did equally as well as the ones with coyote urine or gland lure. Go figure.
Again, take that for what its worth, and I'm not an expert...but that was my experience when the "food supply was abnormally good" in a location.
jim-NE

[mallarddrake85]

if its legal in  your state,  find a deer carcass and place traps around it... in a day or 2 u will have some coyotes.

we use  your standard dirthole w/ a backing normally.  a paste meat bait in the hole and a little urine  on the backing and u will have  a coyote in the morning.

[pintaildrake]

this is where i disagree w/ my bro(mallarddrake85) i like to find the trails that the yotes are using to get to the gut piles, and set there. you have to act quick though, the yotes will clean up a gut pile in 2-3 days. leaving little room for error.