Tomorrow krochus and I will be taking my 500 S&W handi to the range. We'll be chronographing my handload of 42 grains of H110 with a 385 grain remington spitzer core-lokt. Hopefully we'll be putting the 500 vs. .45-70 debate to rest one way or the other. That or we'll be giving you more ammo. I think it'll be on par with the .45-70 even though that may offend some people for some reason.