Author Topic: Survivor stock vs. Choate... (Read 2712 times)

tallyho · « **on:** September 07, 2005, 05:18:16 PM »

Anybody have any comments on the two of these?

I have a Survivor set that is currently on a Sportster rimfire. It is about an inch shorter than a regular synthetic stock, and about an inch longer than a youth synth, so it actually works out pretty well lengthwise for my wife.

But I've been thinkin' about putting it on a .308 or 30/30. Have read somewhere (I believe from poncaguy) that the recoil is more managable with his Choate stock.

I am wondering what the difference is between the Choate and the NEF Survivor (I notice that the Survivor is made by Choate) and if anybody has tried both of them, what was your experience.

Wondering also how these stocks work with a scope. I find that the one on the Sportster is just a teeny bit low on the cheek for me. Have to stretch and peek up just a bit to get a full veiw - not a problem on a .22LR, but I am wondering how it would be with something having a bit of recoil?

Cheers
Kerry

R.W.Dale · « **Reply #1 on:** September 07, 2005, 05:22:53 PM »

I didn't have any problems with recoil with my 308 survivor in fact I was pleasently surprised. I wouldn't hesitate to use one on even 45/70.

tallyho · « **Reply #2 on:** September 07, 2005, 05:33:43 PM »

Thanks Krochus,

And I should mention to all, that the .308 barrel I have is not the heavy barrel, but the lighter, tapered version. So the recoil will not be reduced because of the additional weight of the HB version.

Cheers
Kerry

lik2hunt · « **Reply #3 on:** September 08, 2005, 01:20:42 AM »

Both are Choate stocks as far as I know. Just go to their website (Google it) and compare theirs to the ones shown on H&R's site and you'll be able to tell. I'm confident that all the synthetics for H&R are made by Choate.
I think it's been discussed here before.

Stan in SC · « **Reply #4 on:** September 08, 2005, 02:30:50 AM »

I put a survivor butt stock on an ultra lite .243 Handi and am more than pleased with it.It makes you hold tighter to the shoulder due to the pistol grip and seems to me to give better accuracy because of that.

Stan

poncaguy · « **Reply #5 on:** September 08, 2005, 04:37:41 AM »

I have scopes on all my Choate stocked rifles and they work fine for me. I think before I'm done, all my Handi's will have the Chaote Varmit setup.

tallyho · « **Reply #6 on:** September 08, 2005, 06:19:15 AM »

Lik2hunt,
Thanks, I realize the Survivor stock is made by Choate (it says so inside ths stock :grin: ) and I have compared them on the website,

What I was looking for was if anybody had noticed any difference between the one sold by NEF as the Survivor, and the one sold by Choate as an after market?

And thanks guys for info on your own personal experiences.

I plan on putting my own Survivor stock on a recently acquired .308 Ultra (it came with the commemorative medallion on a very nice laminated stock) and getting some personal experiences with it, just curious about what to expect by checking how other folks experiences were.

Cheers
Kerry

poncaguy · « **Reply #7 on:** September 08, 2005, 06:27:58 AM »

My 308 came as a Survivor model, but I replaced it with the Choate Varmit which I like much better........

tallyho · « **Reply #8 on:** September 08, 2005, 06:44:23 AM »

Poncaguy... that's what I am curious about. What did you see (or experience) as the advantage of the Choate stock over the Survivor stock?

What was it that prompted you to change over?

K

poncaguy · « **Reply #9 on:** September 08, 2005, 07:08:04 AM »

Main reason, recoil pad , fore end, lenght of stock can be adjusted........

quickdtoo · « **Reply #10 on:** September 08, 2005, 07:11:23 AM »

Kerry, I have both, they're both made by Choate, the survivor forend is marked Choate inside the barrel channel. The survivor stock is thinner plastic for the most part, the UV stock is well made and seems to be considerably more rigid. Both are made of the same material, though. The forends are night and day different....

tallyho · « **Reply #11 on:** September 08, 2005, 07:26:12 AM »

Poncaguy, thanks for that, I'm starting to get the idea :lol: .

Quick. Thanks Tim, the pics definitely help see the visual differences. I'm curious, what's the purpose of the metal plates in the Choate forend? And do you use it primarily for off the bench? How is it to carry in the field - if you do?

Kerry

poncaguy · « **Reply #12 on:** September 08, 2005, 07:51:39 AM »

they stiffen the fore end and allow the use of a bipod......

tallyho · « **Reply #13 on:** September 08, 2005, 07:55:22 AM »

aaaah!

quickdtoo · « **Reply #14 on:** September 08, 2005, 07:59:06 AM »

The UV forend has a T-rail installed that the bipod adapter slides into, those shiny metal pieces are the nuts that secure it.

jmckinley · « **Reply #15 on:** September 08, 2005, 02:25:34 PM »

The stock is interesting to me as well. My 25-06 kicks the stuffings out of me. I have a 223 fluted that I love. my 25-06 is an Ultra Hunter. Will the choate stock fit it?
Jess

quickdtoo · « **Reply #16 on:** September 08, 2005, 02:30:04 PM »

Jess, sure will, all of the H&R/NEF stocks are one-size-fits-all cept the forends of some of the shotguns.

NickB79 · « **Reply #17 on:** September 14, 2005, 09:24:35 PM »

Has anyone here used the Choate stock with a shotgun barrel installed? I'm just curious if I could get an NEF set up with a Choate stock and use it with multiple rifle and shotgun barrels, or if I'd have to get another stock specifically for the shotgun barrel as well.

pascalp · « **Reply #18 on:** September 15, 2005, 09:32:40 AM »

Nick,
I own a H&R 258 , 30/30 and 20Ga.
I use a Choate varmint stock, perfect for a 30/30 scoped, not appropriate for sighting with a shotgun barrel.

tallyho · « **Reply #19 on:** September 15, 2005, 09:45:56 AM »

pascalp,
Just curious what that might be at the muzzle end of your rifle?

Cheers
Kerry

Nixter · « **Reply #20 on:** September 15, 2005, 10:47:53 AM »

tallyho, Mr. pascalp resides in Europe. In other posts he mentions using suppressors on his rifles. I am going to guess that what we see on the end of his 30/30 barel are threads for a suppressor, more commonly know on this side of the pond as a silencer.

Harder to get a rifle there but once you do, a silencer is easy. Pascalp has a post about his trials in getting a 22 Hornet in his neck of the woods. This he also equipped with a silencer. Great for pest control in my opinion.

The local farmer wants for us to cure his coyote problem and a silencer would let us get closer to his house and those of his neighbors without raising a ruckus.

Just my opinions, hopefully pascalp will chime in and confirm or deny my thoughts.

Nixter

pascalp · « **Reply #21 on:** September 15, 2005, 01:04:12 PM »

Nixter,
You get 9.5/10 for the knowledge of my posts, good. :-)
But the black ring is a threads protector, not the threads !.
(Hope some spare time to play with and tune reload for the 22H.)

Kerry,
you have your answer. Nixter is right, as soon as i can i put and use suppressors (targets at range, only!).

tallyho · « **Reply #22 on:** September 15, 2005, 01:42:16 PM »

Nixter and pascalp, thanks guys.

Nixter · « **Reply #23 on:** September 16, 2005, 01:15:09 PM »

Ok, I admit it. I didn't notice that the black thing at the end of the barrel was raised when I made my post.

After further review it is definitly raised and looks like thread protectors...

pascalp, just for clarification. Where are you? Pascal is a common French name but that doesn't mean you are in France. Suppressors are common in the UK and that might lead one to beleieve you are in the UK.

So what is it? You have our respect either way, France or UK. You are a gun guy. You are one of us regardless of your nationality.

With all due respect,

Nixter

pascalp · « **Reply #24 on:** September 16, 2005, 03:23:23 PM »

Nixter,

I'm a french man.
My "not so good" english isn't the native language of an english man. (The spellCheck button help a lot)

Suppressors are used in UK, even and mostly with air guns, as they use really powerful .177 or .22 air rifle.
Here, they are not so common. For civilian, they could be use only at the range (no hunting) and good one are quite expensive (the very best aren't for civilian).

I've updated my profile, things will be more clear.

Respectfully,
Pascal.