Swift A-Frame vs Nosler Partition

[Daveo]

I'm going on a moose hunt in newfoundland and am looking for recomendations on the best premium factory load for my Weatherby 270.

[Robert]

JJHACK has writen articles in praise of the Swift A Frame with pictures of recovered bullets.  They are excellent, although spendy, but how much is your hunt worth?  The Nosler Partition is the industry standard that most people compare other bullets to rate performance.  It is a great bullet.  The A-Frame retains the most weight in tests though.

[BLUESBERRY]

:lol:    I think nosler bullets were the best  bullets 10 to 20 years ago, but in my personal  beleiefs the,  Swifts bullets are the best hunting bullets you can but today,,,  yes, they are the most expensive, around a buck a bullet, so what,,, your only going to get one shot ,maybe two if lucky.  You problay have 4 to 700$ in scope, 4 to 500 $ in rifle, 1000$ for plane fare, 3000$ or more for hunting trip,   Well the most inportant thing is the bullet,cause thats what kills your Moose,,   ps, good luck on your trip..  What outfitter are you using,  I plan on going there next year,,
             Bruce,,    bruce581@attbi.com

[Lawdog]

Daveo,

As to the load I gave you the reason I use Nosler Partitions is every time I order A-Frames I keep getting told they are on back order.  I have tried them and to me there isn't much difference between the two.  If you have a ready supply of A-Frames then I see no reason you couldn't substitute them for Partitions.  I just seem to be able to get Nosler Partitions when I need them.  Lawdog

[Daveo]

Thanks again Lawdog. As mentioned earlier in Bolt action site I'm not a reloader. I have found a site that sells ammo, presumably "custom" loaded...They recomended the A-frame. Have you ever heard of cpcartridge.com?

[acearch72]

I believe you mean Conely Precision Cartridge Company.  They're in Senatobia, Mississippi.

They are a good outfit.  I buy all my 264 Win Mag from them.  Stand behind their loads and they shoot fine.  Only problem I had was with some bad brass.  Called Kole up and he said send them all back no questions asked and replaced them plus a free box.

Only problem is he won't sell less than 5 boxes so it's sort of pricey if you're just trying out a load.  Call Kole and talk to him.  He'll give you good advice and work with you on the proper bullet for what you want to do.

I've been thinking about trying the Aframes myself.  Tried the Nosler Ballistic Tips last year and was very dissapointed in performance at long range.  I want something that will penetrate, not disintergrate.

[Lawdog]

acearch72,

I see we have had the same experience with Ballistic Tips.  Guess what if you are thinking about SST's from Hornady they react the same way.   Disintegrate not penetrate.  Tried them in two different calibers, .257 and .308, results were the same.  They are accurate but that doesn't help if they don't hold together.  Lawdog

[acearch72]

I'm considering the Swift Aframes.  I haven't decided on these or the old favorite the Nosler Partition.

I would probably go with the Barnes X but I can't get them to shoot with enough accuracy to interest me.

Have you tried the Aframes??

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[Lawdog]

acearch72,

I've been playing around with Barnes X and XLC's ever since the government starting banning lead products.  The wife and I used Barnes bullets this year in Alaska with very good results.  She was using her 6.5 mm Swede and had my new toy a Win. M70 in .450 Marlin.  I hear you when you say you are having accuracy problems with the Barnes.  They take playing around with the seating depth to get them to shoot well.  And at the cost of Barnes bullets it can get expensive.  Lawdog

[acearch72]

Lawdog,

I don't have the time to reload myself, so I was using Conley's loads.  I tried the 140gr. Barnes X & XLC in my Kleingunther 7mm Rem Mag.  Those bullets took a 1/2" MOA gun and turned it into a 2" MOA gun.

I went back to the Federal Premium Nosler Partitions which shoot 1/2"MOA for my 7mm,  I'm thinking of trying the Aframes to see how they shoot.

I just got some Barnes 130 gr. for my Savage Lazzeroni.  I haven't got to shoot them yet but maybe they will work better in this gun.  Lazzeroni discontiued the loads I was using, so hopefully this will work ok.