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My son and Marines 2/6 Fox Company return to Iraq today...
« on: September 18, 2005, 02:23:47 AM »
My son and his companions with the 2nd Marine Division, 6th Regiment, Fox Company return to Iraq (Al Fallujah) today from Cheery Point, NC.  As is typical with most military operations, there is little or no information for the families and the soldiers regarding the duty, the timing, and most importantly the return.  They have just returned from 29 Palms, CA where door to door and hand combat techniques were refined.

As usual, the "rules of engagement" stink and the sighting of an armed Iraqi does not give the green light to kill.  Only after observing an aggressive act (shooting into a car or house) or being shot at can he engage and eliminate (well, lets be clear, the engagement is going to happen across the open sights of his M-16 no matter what transpires, safety off, finger adjacent  to [maybe on] the trigger).  Very high pucker factor under these "rules".

Of late, I had been reading some of the embedded journalist's accounts of "seasoned" soldiers.  "Rookies" to the door to door fighting can be a hazard to themselves and their fellow soldiers.  "Lock up" and its adrenaline pumping fear freeze some people when "ice in the veins" is required to stay alive.  By "rookies" I mean soldiers not experienced to the door to door, heart pounding, bullets flying, people getting shot and killed in close quarter battles.  I can not relate, even as a veteran myself, I have not been confronted with that situation.  I don't envy those who have.  Living with the memories, I hear, can really change a man.

Other hazards include IEDs and their effects on the occupants of our military troop-transport vehicles.  Seasoned veterans are mindful of the specific details of everyone within killing distance and the prevalence of  remote detonation from insurgents in the near-field vicinity.  Body postures, head positioning, mannerisms of movement, etc. as scanned for any evidence of an ambush.  These survival traits are not honed in duty stations like 29 Palms; they are lived every day on the battlefield and the survivors (seasoned veterans) are one-hundred times smarter (than Rookies) about their surroundings, for their own safety.

I think I will stop that sort of reading now.  I don't need the increased anxiety.  I'll wait for Ben to tell me what's going on and in his own way.  It is an unpleasant and dangerous world in which we live.  Not as dangerous or as unpleasant as being an animal and "on the menu" in the food chain, but you know what I mean.  Too bad, we as humans can't get "on the same page" to stop this madness toward one another.  We could, but giving up one's autonomy for the collective good is not "survival of the fittest" material.

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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2005, 04:48:58 AM »
There is no way put a frilly face on it--your Ben is there to kill as many terrorists/insurgents as possible.  That vermin has left us no other choice.  In this, I wish your son God speed, good luck, go for it--whatever will make his duty there count.  There should be a recognition of the number of terrorists taken out by our warriors like fighter pilots get for taking out enemy aircraft.

I have nothing but the greatest appreciation for men like your son.  He is truly America's finest; it's just too bad that we're forced to put our best in this situation, but that seems to be the way of the world.
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2005, 01:24:42 PM »
landowner..
   Thank your son for us and for the service he has provided for all of us.
  Yes, the "rookies" will have a learning curve but they will negotiate that curve at a rapid rate.
    My grandson will be deploying; He is with a Special Ops unit..
 

    I would like to believe that rookie mistakes are not nearly so prevalent as the embedded reporter indicated.
  I can recall from my military service and firefighting experience that if one is trained well enough...training will carry the day..
  Just like the firemen that went up into the World trade Center towers on 9/11....
   Commonsense would tell you that they would hesitate, at least..
  from what I understand, there was no hesitation...
   Training..training...training..

      It is easy for someone to say " I support the troops"...even when they don't support their mission...
  I am thoroughly convinced...if I don't support their work, their task, mission and heroic efforts...in killing the enemy...then I do not TRULY support the troops.
If you don't want the truth, don't ask me.  If you want something sugar coated...go eat a donut !  (anon)

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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2005, 02:43:13 PM »
May the Lord bless them and watch over them. May He give them strength in body and spirit, and may he keep them safe to return home to their families.

In Jesus Name, Amen.

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Soli Deo Gloria!

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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2005, 05:11:57 AM »
I just returned with the 26 MEU desert cruise.  I am with the 162 Marines.  The air support.  I thought you might be a little comforted to know that most of the fighting is done over there.  We are obviously getting ready to pull out and be done with things in that part of the world.   You read a lot of things written by people who are or were in the mix of things when it was really bad.  Sometimes, the fighting picks up, but for the most part, there isn't much going on over there.  We left in March and just got back to New River on the 24th.  My children loved seeing all of the helicopters flying overhead in the fly by.  My wife had information that I did not just by talking to the Key wives network.  I do not know if Ben is married, but if he is, you'll most likely know more about what is going on than he does.  I quit telling my wife where we were going because after all of the briefs I had on not speaking of our whereabouts, she would ask me out of the blue on the e-mail how I liked Iraq, Kuwait, or Joran.  She rally did know things before i did and knew of things I was told were not to be spoken of.  I am now on a much needed welcome home 96 and have many chores to do.  I'll check back on here later and see how Ben is fairing.

Hoorah!!  And Semper Fi

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« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2005, 10:17:08 PM »
Tuff;
    Thanks for your service ! You folks that are holding the line these days are true PATRIOTS in my view.
   I deleted much of my previous post because perhaps I told too much..although most of it came from the Marine's website. The final destination I guess I can't be sure of...because I'm sure they may put out all kinds of "red herrings", just to confuse any would be snoopers...

  In any case...may God richly bless you and yours...


    BTW; My grandson is in 22 MEU... BLT 1/2
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