.270 vs .30-06

[gs672]

I appreciate all the info everybody!!!
It has been more helpful then I thought it would.

THANK YOU,
gs672

[Savage .250]

Always wanted a .270 but for some reason or another i never picked one up.  The .270 is a good solid cal. You can find ammo must any place in the US. Plus it has taken just about every type of game you can think of. Maybe not for the larger stuff but most hunters have a "big-bore" for that stuff anyway.  Most gun companies made models in .270 so finding one you like should not be to hard. Recoil is really not an issue. Can`t go wrong.  
   That being said,  i`ve got an old Springfield in 30-06 that has delivered
    the groceries for a lot of years. Might be a tad heavy, no it is heavy,
    so it kind of stays in the closet most of the time.....semi-retired.
    The long and short of it is whick do i like........ 30-06. I know what this
     cal can do. Besides i`ve got enough guns.

 " The best part of the hunt is not the harvest but in the experience."

[gs672]

I finally brought one home!!!
I took JameyF's advice and looked into the Sako.  I realized it was a little more then I planned on spending so I looked further.  Looking around this fine forum I came across the name Tikka over and over again.   Just about every post was a positive one at that so I went to my local gun dealer to look at the T3 lite.  I fell in love almost instantly,  "the only thing that would make this better was a stainless barrel" I said to myself.  He didn't have any with a stainless  barrel so I went home to call other gun dealers to check their stock, my luck someone had the T3 lite stainless in stock.  I kept bouncing back and forth between .30-06 and .270 so when they told me it was a .30-06 I figured this was fate.  When I arrived the salesman showed me the rifle and it was beautiful and $50.00 cheaper then the first place I went to.  I just brought it home about two hours ago and I can't wait to shoot it.  I will post again when I take it to the range to let everyone know how it shoots.

[JameyF]

CONGRATS on your new purchase.  I've also read a bunch of positive statements on the Tika.  If I didn't have a gun to trade, two gift certificates, and  a birthday check to help with the purchase, I would have probably gotta a Tikka also.  My uncle just bought a Tikka last year.  He waited like 6 months to a year for his gun shop to get the model he wanted.  I'm glad you found the one you had in mind in the calibre you wanted.

Be aware that Tikka and Sako lite rifles had a recall for faulty fluted barrels, but that should not be an issue buying one now.  For peace of mind, I would just double check the one you have isn't affected by the recall.

I was able to take my Sako out today for a test drive.  I use a Bushnell Elite 4200 2.5-10x40 with the Firefly reticle (Heavy Duplex).  I shot a total of 9 rounds.  Being the first time it's been shot except for the factory, I did my usual routine...clean, shoot, clean, shoot, clean, shoot, clean and shoot and clean.  I'm not as thorough as some with seasoning a barrel, but I do want to at least give it an honest attempt.  The first four shots were done at 25 (missed the paper), 15, 25, and 50 yards to prepare for hitting paper at 100 yards.  After the fourth shot cleaning, I loaded a final 5 rounds to shoot for a group.

I was shooting sitting in a chair but with shooting sticks instead of a bench.  Obviously NOT the best way shoot for small groups, but I was only getting what I thought would be a rough sighting in for maybe some bench work next time out.  Keep in mind I was walking 75 yards each way after each of the first 4 shots to clean the barrel.  I ended up shooting a 3" five shot group when I did move back to 100 yards.  One shot I noticed pulling and marked it's location in my mind.  Removing that shot the remaining 4 are a 2" group.  I'll take that anyday shooting with sticks at 100 yards with the first ammo I've tried in the gun.

Overall, I was pleased with how the gun handled and shot.  Recoil was less than feared, but more than pleasant.  Fouling lessened after each shot/cleaning as expected.  There's no way for me to verify it's a 1 MOA gun without a higher powered scope with finer crosshairs and a bench to shoot with.  But, I have no reason to doubt the gun yet either.  Nine rounds through a gun doesn't prove much, so I'm looking forward to shooting more and seeing if I can shoot near or better than MOA with it consistently from a bench.

Please post your results.  I'm already thinking of a 243 in the future for a deer/bobcat/fox gun.  I am leaning towards a Tikka T3 or Sako 75 in laminate and stainless.

[kenscot]

I own both and hunt in the same area and when it comes to putting deer down in their tracks my  270 wins hands down

How is that? Or do you shoot your 270 better than your 30-06?  

Redhawk
 I shoot both equally well and when it comes to putting a bullet of equal construction in the boiler room the 270 just drops them in there tracks where the 06 will usually leave me wiyh a little tracking to do

[JameyF]

 I shoot both equally well and when it comes to putting a bullet of equal construction in the boiler room the 270 just drops them in there tracks where the 06 will usually leave me wiyh a little tracking to do

I don't know for sure why you or anyone would experience this.  The energy between the two calibers are very close and the diameter of the 30'06 is obviously larger.  There is no problem with penetration of a 30'06 on an animal so lightframed as a whitetail.  I would expect a wider path of destruction with a 30'06 resulting in a quicker/or as quick of a  kill.  I chose a 270 over a 30'06 for the speed/trajectory/lighter bullets.  

Let me ask you this kenscot....Do you find deer hit further away with a 270 still fall faster than closer hit deer from a 30'06?  What I'm getting at is...Are you finding deer still fall faster with a 270 even when the speed of the 270 drops to the speed of a 30'06 bullet?

[red_ford_truck]

for deer, elk, pronghorn, moose and the like, no real difference....

same case, different bullets that weigh nearly the same.......

if you cant do it with a 270 it cant be done with a 30/06
and the converse of that is true as well.

remember , those were the cream of the crop prior to the end of ww2.....


the gun companies dont make money  if they stop making new and

better() guns..........that is why you have the Winny short mags, the rem ultra mags and the rest of the newer is better...........

dont buy the hype about bigger and badder......lots of desk top experts will tell you you have to have a 300 win mag for elk, when they have never even been west of the missouri river.much less seen a real elk.

if you need more gun, your either after brown/grizzly bear or your  going on a long flight to africa for big game......
if it eats grass and walks on hooves, either gun will get it done

rft