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Offline Critter

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« on: October 07, 2005, 09:42:51 AM »
If I use loose 777 in my Knight will the percussion cap system thats in it now light the charge?  I looked at a 209 conversion for it but they are somewhat expensive.  If  #11 won't do it how about a musket cap?  I used regular bp in it last year but getting a second sabot down the bore was not fun and a third was about impossible.  If I need a second shot in the field I don't want to have to spitpatch between shots.

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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2005, 10:09:24 AM »
Critter,
I use percussion caps to light off Triple 7 loose powder and generally have no problems as long as I don't forget the powder!!!!!  You now how it is BS-ing with the next guy at the range and loose your train of thought????
Usually, if I light off a couple p-caps before loading the first time I'm set to go.  I wouldn't touch #209 primers for anything.....as you must have heard the problems with breech plug crud rings, right?  Incidently, the European percussion caps Dynamil Nobel are a little "hotter" than the American CCI variety.

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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2005, 04:04:10 PM »
A musket cap will work just fine.  :D
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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2005, 11:10:40 PM »
Thank you gentlemen, thats good news,  Now it's time to buy another lb and go try it out at the range.

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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2005, 09:15:24 AM »
I have tried to light that stuff off with every primer possibillity there is (large rifle , large rifle magnum, small rifle , small rifle magnum, 209's, musket, and #11's, I built breech plugs to hold them all). The best accuracy was obtained with the #11's. Go figure.

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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2005, 09:16:58 AM »
My Knight wolverine with a 220 grain Dead Center Sabot over 80 grains of 777 fffg lit by a #11 cap will shoot a ragged hole at 100 yards (.4" to be exact).  There are many that now say the 209 primer is too hot to get consistantly accurate loads.  I know I'm glad I didn't pay $60 for the conversion kit.

I took the 209 out of my Encore as well.  I light it with the .25ACP conversion and a small rifle primer.

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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2005, 11:09:56 AM »
Don`t forget CCI now makes #11 Magnum Caps now, that is what I just bought after running out of regular CCI #11 caps, I am curious as to the ignition on Pyrodex on a side hammer Renegade. I had maybe 2 misfires with regular blackpowder out of tons of shots with the regular #11 caps, but the Pyrodex had a few misfires and some hang fires with the regular CCI #11 caps, I hope the #11 Magnum caps solve that, as I really like Pyrodex at times. Jack.

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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2005, 01:18:19 PM »
I checked my supply of caps and I am running low so I will check out a couple of these other suggestions.  I haven't had time to go to the gunshop or the range so I haven't tried 777 yet in my frontstuffer.  I also want to try some of the newer bullets, last year I used Speer 300 gr .44 bullets in a Harvester sabot but from what I'm reading there are much better choices out on the market.  I am chomping at the bit for some trigger time. :-)