Author Topic: 9.3x62 (Read 1847 times)

msorenso · « **on:** October 09, 2005, 04:03:51 AM »

Who make ammo for this caliber. Any balllistics info would be graet as well!

missouri dave · « **Reply #1 on:** October 09, 2005, 06:09:39 AM »

I know norma does. Not sure who else.

Thebear_78 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 09, 2005, 12:38:16 PM »

NOrma and PMP does, not sure on any others, I reload for mine, its a very easy caliber to reload for.

Ramrod · « **Reply #3 on:** October 09, 2005, 12:55:04 PM »

I looked into this round a few years back. I had a Nazi marked Mauser action looking for a barrel. I was debating between this and the .35 Whelen. In the end, I sold the action, and that was the end of the project. It looked to me like 2500 fps with a 270 grain bullet is about the mid to upper range with handloads. It's not very much less than the .375 H&H. Here in the U.S. it really is a handloading only proposition, and the .366 cal bullets are few and far between. Later on when funds improved, I just went and bought the .375!

missouri dave · « **Reply #4 on:** October 10, 2005, 03:49:33 AM »

If you do reload I think one of the other posts on this forum says barnes now makes an x bullet in this caliber.

Graybeard · « **Reply #5 on:** October 10, 2005, 05:54:00 AM »

Not aware of anyone who makes a 270 grain for the 9,3 bore size. The standard weight is 286 grains. Nosler also makes a 250 BT for it. I believe Barnes is making at least one bullet for it but do not recall the weight.

1911crazy · « **Reply #6 on:** October 10, 2005, 06:36:21 AM »

At www.midwayusa.com they have the 9,3mm bullets in 250gr, 286gr, 285gr, 300gr. and 320gr. Lets not forget these calibers are hitting 100 years old.

There is a few sites on the net in English to research about the 9,3mm calibers. I have been interested in them lately. I need another big bore rifle so my son can hunt too. I have a 338win.mag already and i like the 9,3x64 because its right in there with the 375H&H in ballastics. The 9.3x64 is one of the most powerful of the 9,3mm calibers. It has blown holes thru animals were others don't. But on the other had the 9,3x62 is very popular in Africa too. I know one of the smaller 9,3mm rounds is a tad under the 338win.mag.

Here is some interesting sites to look at;

http://club.guns.ru/eng/barnaul.html

http://www.african-hunter.com/the_9_3_x_62_mauser.htm

There's a lot more when you do a search for "9,3x64 brenneke" it all comes up.

With the 9,3x64 were getting close to sending 2 1/2 tons of stopping power down range. Its a good quick clean kill.

Ramrod · « **Reply #7 on:** October 10, 2005, 04:27:05 PM »

Quote from: Graybeard

Not aware of anyone who makes a 270 grain for the 9,3 bore size. The standard weight is 286 grains. Nosler also makes a 250 BT for it. I believe Barnes is making at least one bullet for it but do not recall the weight.

Speer makes a 270 grain semi-spitzer. For a number of years it was the only American made bullet for 9.3 cartridges.

Brithunter · « **Reply #8 on:** October 15, 2005, 11:20:32 AM »

Hi All,

Yes Norma certainly makes this round as does RWS as does Sellier & Bellot.

PMP lists it as does Nosler in it's "Custom line up"

I just also found this from an article :-

"Prvi Partisan, an ISO 9001/96 certified company with a 75-year-old history, is entering our market not only with many of the popular surplus calibers, but with commercial calibers ranging from the .22 Hornet to 9.3x62mm. Their product is excellent, and Graf's prices are terrific."

So it seems Grafs carries the Prvi Partizan line of ammo.

Seems there is quite a choice now :grin:

JoeBru · « **Reply #9 on:** October 15, 2005, 11:45:12 PM »

There is a decent range of projectiles for the 9.3, just got to find the right one for the job, off the top of my head Barnes makes a 250 and 286: Norma 232, 286; Nosler 250; RWS 245, 258, 286, 293; Speer 270; Woodleigh 250, 286, 320. I'm sure that there are others.
In my 9.3 x 62 I've used RWS 258, Speer 270 and Woodleigh 250 on Sambar. Used 286 rnsp on boar; wild donkey and buffalo.
Loading to 2360 fps with the Woodleigh 286 rnsp and 2600 fps with the Woodleigh 250 rnsp.
Really don't understand why anyone would bother developing a 35 Whelan, 338/06 etc. etc. when the Europeans had the answer almost a century ago.

1911crazy · « **Reply #10 on:** October 16, 2005, 01:46:31 AM »

Quote from: JoeBru

There is a decent range of projectiles for the 9.3, just got to find the right one for the job, off the top of my head Barnes makes a 250 and 286: Norma 232, 286; Nosler 250; RWS 245, 258, 286, 293; Speer 270; Woodleigh 250, 286, 320. I'm sure that there are others.
In my 9.3 x 62 I've used RWS 258, Speer 270 and Woodleigh 250 on Sambar. Used 286 rnsp on boar; wild donkey and buffalo.
Loading to 2360 fps with the Woodleigh 286 rnsp and 2600 fps with the Woodleigh 250 rnsp.
Really don't understand why anyone would bother developing a 35 Whelan, 338/06 etc. etc. when the Europeans had the answer almost a century ago.

EXACTLY!!!!! Yup since around 1905 these rounds have been around. But the american market didn't accept the "MM's"(9,3mm) until lately even the 7mm mag. was tough to catch on in the beginning and it still didn't go the way they planned it to catch on again probably because of the MM's. Many didn't like something new or different and won't accept change. Lets face it the Europeans were developing performance rounds for hunting Africa too. I think this is why the 9,3mm's are still around today.

1911crazy · « **Reply #11 on:** October 16, 2005, 01:53:12 AM »

Quote from: Brithunter

Hi All,

Yes Norma certainly makes this round as does RWS as does Sellier & Bellot.

PMP lists it as does Nosler in it's "Custom line up"

I just also found this from an article :-

"Prvi Partisan, an ISO 9001/96 certified company with a 75-year-old history, is entering our market not only with many of the popular surplus calibers, but with commercial calibers ranging from the .22 Hornet to 9.3x62mm. Their product is excellent, and Graf's prices are terrific."

So it seems Grafs carries the Prvi Partizan line of ammo.

Seems there is quite a choice now :grin:

Prvi-Partisan is also making ammo for the FNM company in Portugal too.(6,5x55 swede) Its just in an FNM box. I have reloaded some of this yugo brass and it seems to be good stuff too. Also the Winchester "Metric" ammo is actually Sellier & Bellot in a Winchester box too.

msorenso · « **Reply #12 on:** October 16, 2005, 02:29:37 AM »

I take it if you want to shoot this caliber you have to reload?

Buckfever · « **Reply #13 on:** October 17, 2005, 03:27:37 PM »

I will have a cz 550 FS in a 9.3x62 and I am wondering if the 286gr pils are over kill and more recoil than necessary. Norma has a 232 gr. but you have to buy it as ammo, 45.00/box of 20. Any other ideas. Maybe I am to concerned about bullet type? Once it gets over 232gr is there a bad bullet? Wondered about 250gr Ballistic tip or Barnes? Thoughts.
Buckfever

Brithunter · « **Reply #14 on:** October 17, 2005, 10:29:55 PM »

Hi joeBru,

The answer to your question:-

"Really don't understand why anyone would bother developing a 35 Whelan, 338/06 etc. etc. when the Europeans had the answer almost a century ago."

Is quite simple. as it as not from the US is cannot have been any good, it's the old "Not made here" thing. The fact that all they did was basically copy the 9.3x62mm :roll: . Of course at that time US hunters were still being weaned onto Bolt Actions. Ken Waters did a couple of interesting articles on the 35 Wheelan which are worth a read even if you never intend to get one. :wink:

Ramrod · « **Reply #15 on:** October 18, 2005, 02:24:11 PM »

Quote from: Brithunter

Hi joeBru,

The answer to your question:-

"Really don't understand why anyone would bother developing a 35 Whelan, 338/06 etc. etc. when the Europeans had the answer almost a century ago."

Is quite simple. as it as not from the US is cannot have been any good, it's the old "Not made here" thing. The fact that all they did was basically copy the 9.3x62mm :roll: . Of course at that time US hunters were still being weaned onto Bolt Actions. Ken Waters did a couple of interesting articles on the 35 Wheelan which are worth a read even if you never intend to get one. :wink:

Brithunter, you are 100% correct on the Not Made Here thing. It always amazes me how many folks here think we (the Americans) invented everything, when, in actuality, we were just very good at manufacturing someone else's inventions prior to WWll. Sort of like the Japanese of the 60's and 70's. Anyone who has ever compared a 1903 Springfield rifle to an 1898 Mauser can see this simple fact. Heck we even copied the Mauser case-head size, and it is still the American Standard.

1911crazy · « **Reply #16 on:** October 19, 2005, 05:53:21 AM »

We developed the 30-06 from the 7mm mauser(7x57) round we just copied it and made it larger.

I find the 9,3mm line up of rounds very interesting. We have the 9,3x53, 9,3x57, 9,3x62, 9,3x64, 9,3x68 and so on. I'm sure they are not putting a 286gr bullet in the 9,3x53 or 9,3x57?

As far as recoil I have put a 1" thick recoil pad on my 30-06 so my son could shoot it and it made a world of difference in shooting it too. If the recoil is too much you can port the muzzle too besides a larger recoil pad.

Saiga is offering a semi-auto in 9,3x53 it should be here soon and one in 9,3x64(tigr) but its not imported here yet. I wonder how the 9,3x53 performs?

Brithunter · « **Reply #17 on:** October 20, 2005, 09:56:30 PM »

Hi There D MAN,

Sorry to disappoint you but Norma does load the 18.5 gram or 286 Grn Alaska bullet in the 9.3x57mm. Their Cat ref is 19303, I have 3 boxes of it here :grin: The listed muzzle velocity is 630 meters per second.

Rummer · « **Reply #18 on:** October 22, 2005, 05:11:23 AM »

I agree wholeheartedly that Americans (and most other people) have a certain bias trowards their own products, be it rifles, cars, etc.

But I really think that the .35 whelen was developed here more because of the availability of .30-06 rifles, cases and .35 caliber bullets than becuase of xenophobia regarding the metric cartridge.

That being said the 9.3x62 is a great cartridge. As somebody pointed out above, midwayusa.com is the best source for finding out what components are out there.

Nosler Custom Ammo loads a 250gr Ballistic tip and a 286gr Partition.

Rummer