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Offline Mainer

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« on: October 11, 2005, 04:09:26 PM »
Saw some posts on shooting through brush, so I started to research the issue.  Found a couple of interesting articles.  The first one, by Ross Seyfried, is the better:

www.reloadbench.com/articles/brush.html

www.huntingclub.com/document.asp?dID=199
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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2005, 04:24:00 PM »
The gun rags never get the real point in a brush gun. Here in Arkansas we know what a brush gun is and it has nothing to do with shooting through brush.

 1. A brush gun needs to be light short and easy to carry.

 2. a brush gun needs to be sumpin you're not too attached to cause it's gonna get scratched up.

 3. The caliber needs to be sufficent to give you a good chance of having a blood trail

 4. A semi auto or lever for fast follow up shots cause the deer aint gonna be in yore sights for long. But not to much recoil so you can keep you're sight picture.

 5. DON"T SHOOT AT ANIMALS OR SHAPES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THICKETS  that's how people get killed.

 In short  a Marlin 336 or an SKS are the ultimate brush guns.

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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2005, 04:56:45 PM »
Krochus
You left out It needs to be something with fast-aquisition type sights, like a 1.5-4 power scope.  I like a peep and brass bead with the insert removed from the peep for a large ghost-ring effect.

This works good in the rain too, a huge factor in my neck of the woods.
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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2005, 04:48:05 AM »
Ultimate brush gun = Marlin Stainless 1895 in 45-70.  The gun can handle very high level 2 45-70 loads, is fast handling, carries 4-5 rounds..
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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2005, 05:07:00 AM »
Ruger .44 Mag. semi-auto fills the bill, so does Marlin 1894 with either aperture or red-dot sights. It would certainly be a handicap to be toting a Handi in 357(Max) or 44(Super Mag) with that setup, wouldn't it? :)
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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2005, 05:10:57 AM »
Mine is a Marlin Model 375 lever action. Can only get 200 grain factory loads from Winchester, but that hasn't been a problem. They didn't make this gun long, but it works great.
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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2005, 05:52:01 AM »
The Browning model 81 BLR,  mine in .308 Win mounted with a Leupy Vari-X 2-7x28,  has been a great woods/brush gun for me since 1983, it doesn't get any brushier than in Western Washington!!  8)
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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2005, 07:02:27 AM »
Mine is a Winchester Big Bore 375 loaded with Hornady 250gr (homemade) at 2100fps.  Get er done!
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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2005, 07:04:33 AM »
If I was in the market for a "brush" gun...other than my 45-70 Handi...I would opt for a Remington pump in 35 Whelen...I've kinda always wanted one of these...or a Savage 99 ...in the same...if they ever made it in that...

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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2005, 07:38:37 AM »
Mac, the rifle I hunted with before the BLR was a mdl 760 Gamemaster in '06!!!
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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2005, 08:05:42 AM »
Quote from: handirifle
Mine is a Winchester Big Bore 375 loaded with Hornady 250gr (homemade) at 2100fps.  Get er done!


Big Bore 94 wish I still had one.

I did find a nice Marlin 336CS in .35 Rem that will hold me for now.  

But my next lever action purchase will be......  :shock:



Got an SKS too but its not my first choice for taking to the woods gun.  :roll:
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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2005, 08:42:47 AM »
Fast handling, quick sights, short,  pref in big bore (not to bust brush but to leave a good size hole for a blood trail), 444, 445SM, 44mag, 45-70, 45 colt+p, single shot , pump, lever, semi auto all will work. I prefer singles & levers personally
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« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2005, 10:20:15 AM »
Nothing wrong with a good single shot to fill this bill. I made my 445 my brush gun. Short youth stocks with a red dot sight and the barrel cut down to 17". It makes a nice easy to carry gun.

If i'm some where i know i'm gonna need another shot i carry my marlin 336 in 30-30 or my mossberg 500 with a rifled slug barrel on it.
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« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2005, 10:28:37 AM »
Quote from: The Montanan

I did find a nice Marlin 336CS in .35 Rem that will hold me for now.  

But my next lever action purchase will be......  :shock:



I had one of those, not the CS, but it just didn't fit me well.  I like the 94!

I need a short LOP and it fills the bill nicely.
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« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2005, 11:00:39 AM »
My dream brush gun would be a BAR in 444 Marlin with a 18" barrel and a syn. stock.Has anyone ever done this? Digger
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« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2005, 07:08:34 AM »
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it doesn't get any brushier than in Western Washington!!


Quick, you have to come up to SE Alaska if you want brush!   :grin:  I've lived and worked in Western Washington & Oregon, and we have you beat for brush.  But you can keep your blackberries, though.  I still have their thorns where I got whacked while cutting brush for surveying!

Same thing applies to rain.  I got to Oregon and everyone was complaining about how wet it was.  Shucks, we only have four times as much, on average...

Before I sold it to buy a used Marlin, my brush gun was a .30-06 Handi with a scout scope set up.  The Marlin has a peep rear, blade front sight on it.  My main "go to" gun, though, is the Winchester 88 in .308 (2.5X Weaver scope).  That has had the Black-T finish applied and is pretty much impervious to the rain.  Wonderful stuff.  The Marlin will get that treatment shortly.  Be sure to get the gun bead blasted and Parkerized under the Teflon, if you go that way.  I can take the 88 out in the pouring rain and not worry about drying it.  The Marlin starts rusting immediately, no matter how much grease, oil, car wax or whatever I put on it.

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« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2005, 09:40:14 AM »
My brush gun is a 99 Savage in .308.  To me, a brush gun is ANY gun taken into the brush.  If the only qualification is the ability to kill through brush then why not a nuke?  I long ago came to the conclusion an expert is someone with an opinion and a typewriter.  If you want to hunt, do it.  I've seen 29 and 30 inch barreled rifle in brush country.  That would make them brush guns.  No one needs to satisfy me or any other man.

Use whatever you have and and get out into the woods.

Take care and God bless.

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« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2005, 10:08:11 AM »
Well said Tom, especially the part about the experts. 8)
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« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2005, 03:08:09 PM »
WH--A couple of questions for you:

How much does finishing in gun in Black-T cost?

Why Parkerize underneath?
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« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2005, 07:38:22 AM »
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The Browning model 81 BLR, mine in .308 Win mounted with a Leupy Vari-X 2-7x28, has been a great woods/brush gun for me since 1983, it doesn't get any brushier than in Western Washington!!


Quick, I've hunted with a BLR .308 for several years now, and its one of my favorite rifles.  I picked the rifle up from a friend, and its an actual Belgium made Browning.  They only made the BLR in Belgium from '69-71 or '72, and mine was made in '71.  I'm using a Pentax Whitetails Unlimited 2-5x22 scope on it, and have killed several deer with 180gr Remington Core-Lokt's.  

I have a few other "brush" rifles, including a Handi in .45-70 w/ a Burris 1.75-5x and a T/C Contender Carbine in .375 Winchester w/ a Burris Compact 4x.
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« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2005, 08:47:57 AM »
My ruger bolt action ultra lite in 30/06 on 2x is a great bruch gun and on 7x it can take deer to 300 yds . My peep sighted 30/06 pump also works great in the brush as does my 45/70 handi , on my winchester 94 30/30. Another great brush gun which i sold last year was a marlin 1895 ss peep sighted 45/70.
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« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2005, 01:14:39 AM »
win 94 big bore in 375 win.I use hornady 220 gr with RL-7.it's a hammer!
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« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2005, 05:26:13 AM »
Noticed no one from Florida, if you want brush come on down. Any shot over 50 yards is either a cut-down or a road. I like any lever gun in the old faithful 30-30.  :D
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« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2005, 04:39:11 AM »
thanks for the links; very good info.

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If I was in the market for a "brush" gun...other than my 45-70 Handi...I would opt for a Remington pump in 35 Whelen...


Now you're talkin - that's exactly what I want for brush & semi-dangerous game - too bad the Rem 7600 pumps in .35 whelen were a limited run, and so kinda scarce.  Bah.
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« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2005, 09:07:50 AM »
My brush RIFLE is a Marlin 444 loaded with 300gr XTP's.

If I am truly hunting in the thick stuff, I carry a Benelli Nova 12 gauge loaded with 000Buck, and in Hog Country, I also carry a Ruger SuperBlackawk 44Mag with 5 1/2" barrel.
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« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2005, 06:35:42 AM »
My BRUSH gun is a Ruger #3 in 45-70 with Leupold fixed 2x.  Short and weighs nothing.  Mike
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« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2005, 02:46:27 PM »
My brush gun is whichever gun i happen to be carrying when i see a buck in the brush   :-D but if i'm hunting in a place i know there is going to be a lot of brush,i hunt with my ruger .44 mag carbine.short,fast handling and AUTOMATIC.just in case i make a poor hit because of a limb i didn't see.By the way,I'm NOT advocating shooting at MOVEMENT,but there are places that are THICK and the chances of having a perfectly clear shot are slim
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« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2005, 05:11:10 AM »
The 7600 Remington 30-06 carbine would be my pick
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« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2005, 11:05:31 AM »
My brush gun, isn't finished yet. But it will be a shortened sporterized M44 Mosin Nagant to a legal 17" with a small power scope in which I haven't figured out yet. Still in project mode :) .  The 7.62x54R is a strong round, and I am a big fan of it.
And for the historians/purest out there...I bought 8 M44 Barreled receivers, so I haven't "Bubba'd" anything. Just thought I'd put that out there.
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« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2005, 01:13:28 PM »
Savage 24F 30-30 over 12. Covers a host of situations.

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