Just a note. I was using 168 gr 'Billy Bullets' in my 7TCU, and they were really nice, so I bought a 7-30 Waters Carbine thinking haw nice they would be with the extra power. But they did not work well in the 7-30. The TCU has a really long throat...but the 7-30 does not...Go figure. I can make the big bullets work in it but they have to be reduced loads due to needing to seat the long bullets deeper than the shoulder. I bet those 145's Nobade suggested would fit just fine though. I will have to try them if I ever get done with all of my 'other' experiments. Ha Ha.....too many new toys this year, and not enough shooting I guess. Love will do that. But she is gone, so it is time to get back on it.