Author Topic: .22LR Match Super 14 (Read 1602 times)

Rol Page · « **on:** March 02, 2003, 02:25:50 AM »

The first outing with the .22LR Match Super 14" Contender was a pleasant experience. Just shooting off rice filled socks for sand bags @ 50yds. with Wolf Target and Federal Gold Medal ammo. I was able to get 0.8 - 0.9" groups. This is with a Leupold 2.5X8 scope. It seems that I would get a nice little cluster of 3 shots, then a couple of fliers.

I tried to do everything right, same grip, same head position to reduce effects of parallax, etc.

How do these results compare with everyone elses? What can I do to make a good thing better.

After I shot yesterday, I adjusted the trigger, which breaks @ 42 - 44 oz., to eliminate creep.

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance. Rol

Bud · « **Reply #1 on:** March 02, 2003, 03:21:29 AM »

I don't know what your going to do with your 22 Match hunt or just shoot paper.
I have same in a SS and it will shoot excellent. I put a Burris 10X on mine.
At the range one day I was shooting 50 yd targets, excellent groups.
I thought I would try a group at 100 yds. I did and I couldn't believe
the results. A 5 shot group measured 5/8". Yes I did keep the target.
I used Federal 900B target ammo.
If you are going to hunt withyour barrel you need to get some Winchester Power Points 22 cal HP. This is an excellent hunting round.
Good Luc :-) k and Enjoy.

KYODE · « **Reply #2 on:** March 02, 2003, 03:29:38 AM »

i wish i had a 22match barrel, i bet it's just a ball. ol "sd handgunner" is shootin one, maybe he'll get in here and talk the talk. i know he can walk the walk

got a couple ideas for ya to think about . that 22 barrel should work great with a riflescope :eek: thats what i'd try. you could have lots of magnification,field of view, etc.
would be cheaper than that leupold too. :idea: you could put that nice 2.5x8 on another big bore barrel. :lol: an excuse for another barrel.
another idea, try to float the forearm in some way. use graybeards folded electrical tape idea to keep the forearm off the barrel. if it works you have the option to continue using the tape method or finding a more permanent bedding.

SD Handgunner · « **Reply #3 on:** March 02, 2003, 05:18:53 AM »

I too am shooting a Super 14 Match Grade .22 LR Contender with a 3x12x BUrris LER Fine Plex-PA Handgun Scope (mostly on 10x). While I have not had the opportunity to do any shootin outdoors with my Barrel (yet), I have been shooting Indoor Bench Rest with it all winter at our local club. The target we use is the USBR Target.

On this target the "10 Ring" measures .10". To score a "10" the bullet just needs to touch the "10 Ring" (Inward Scoring). However to get an "X" the bullet needs to be fairly well center so that no portion of the "10 Ring" is visible. I have been scoring between 247 & 250 on this target (with a possible score of 250-25x), with the X count normally running around 8 to 10.

In addition to shooting this at our local club, I also participate in an E-Mail Bench Rest Match every month that is sponsored by a Rimfire Talk Forum. This keeps me shootin all year long, but does get kind of hard on the ammo supply.

About the only modification I have done to my barrel is to do a little polishing with FLITZ Bore Polish, and Free Float the Forend. In addition to sanding out the barrel channel of the forend I also glued in a couple of metal washers in the bottom of the countersunk holes in the forend to serve as pillars. While the scores have not gone up, the x count has a little, and I don't seem to get as many unexplained fliers.

Get out and shoot that .22 LR barrel, and have fun. I have shot Contenders for over 20 years and this is the very first Rimfire Barrel I have ever had for a Contender. The biggest mystery is why it took me so long to get one. They are a true joy to shoot, inexpensive and very accurate.

Have fun, and good shootin.

Larry

SD Handgunner · « **Reply #4 on:** March 03, 2003, 11:36:23 AM »

Afternoon Ken

I am not KYODE, but I have indeed tried my Super 14 Match Grade .22 LR Contender Handgun Barrel with a Rifle Scope. I mounted a 6x24x40mm Tasco High Country Rifle Scope on my Barrel and gave it a try.

While all of the things KYODE said are true, Higher Magnification, Larger Field of View, etc., I never did get the hang of the Rifle Scope in shooting from the Bench. Maybe it is because of the unorthodoxed postition that the Rifle Scope requires, or maybe it is just that old habits die hard. At any rate on our USBR Target I cound not shoot scores with the Rifle Scope as high as I have been with the 3x12x Burris Handgun Scope.

Larry

KYODE · « **Reply #5 on:** March 03, 2003, 03:14:16 PM »

yep, i was serious. i'm in the process of trying it on the .223 barrel. for me thats proving to be a little tricky with the recoil and such. but unlike sdhandgunner, i like the feel of shooting the contender that way. it is different, thats for sure. i know i'd like it on a lighter recoil round such as 22lr or 17hmr. hmmm :? wonder why you couldn't group as good larry?

just cradle one resting on your left elbow, while holding your right wrist with your left hand. feels great to me for shooting offhand. from the bench or sandbags just get up close and pull the trigger. :shock: only thing, with the .223 and full power 55gr loads you may get whacked in the nose

:gun4: :biggun:

Rol Page · « **Reply #6 on:** March 05, 2003, 03:02:55 PM »

Hey guys, lets have a pool.... Anybody got an idea when the Olde Kyode becomes a member of the Crescent Eyebrow Club? Heee Heee Heeee

He is playin with fire, maybe not today, or tomorrow, but I'm a bettin he joins....

Just in case you're wonderin, I am a member.... Long time ago, with a rifle I think, then again more recently with a 15" Encore in .243 Win. when I had to send my TC scope back for replacement. Had a spare rifle scope layin around, and thought I could make it work...

Wrong :cry:

Kyode, can we trust you to keep up posted?

Could probably find a computer wiz to make you up one of them certificates and all... How about postin a picture?

Good luck, I hope I'm wrong... Rol

Flatlander.54 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 05, 2003, 03:24:33 PM »

The first .22 lr match carbine barrel I got I put the rifle scope on it but didnt have a carbine buttstock for the frame so I shot it in pistol configuration. I found it very hard to avoid the problem of paralax when using a rifle scope in a pistol configuration, groups were not very impressive at all. But, when I got the buttstock on it the shrunk down to the little 3/8" groups I expected. Just my experience, someone else may not have the same problem in the same situation.

T/C nimrod · « **Reply #8 on:** March 05, 2003, 03:44:36 PM »

I put a rifle scope on my .22lr Match barrel just for the Postal match this quarter - I really like it. The barrel was purchased w/a 10x Burris, used that up till small game season, and realized the fixed 10x wasn't going to cut it in the woods(that first squirrel at 20 feet looked like T-Rex :eek: ). Then went to a fixed 2x Leupold for hunting - liked that for the application. Then these blasted flys showed up - needed more than 2x(crosshairs completely covered the little buggers) and wasn't allowed to go over 6X - making the 10x not an option. So, a 3-9x Simmons went on - perfect setup. I'm keeping the rifle scope on for hunting as well - could I use a pistol scope with the same magnification - sure. But the rifle scope gives me a larger F.O.V. , didn't cost near as much as a pistol scope (actually had an extra), and does everything the pistol scope would do for me.

Now, I won't be doing this to the .41, or any of the Herrett barrels, but I think I have a friend talked into putting one on his .17 Remington. He's looking for higher magnification then 9x, and once again , the rifle scopes are less out of pocket than the handgun versions.

KYODE · « **Reply #9 on:** March 06, 2003, 06:36:19 AM »

:grin: ahhhh! i'll be alright. i've already been shootin the .223 with riflescope. i got busted in the nose several times :lol: kinnda skinned my nose. but i was just shootin up odd loads with 55gr bullets to practice and free up my brass for 40gr nosler's and blue dot powder loads. should have less recoil and be a little easier to handle.
we called in a coyote this mornin and i was packin the 6br encore. after setting up several times, i think the .223 riflescoped barrel may become my coyote rig. :eek:

T/C nimrod · « **Reply #10 on:** March 06, 2003, 07:38:35 AM »

Super 14"

T/C nimrod · « **Reply #11 on:** March 06, 2003, 08:13:16 AM »

I'm not sure that a 10" would be any different. The Simmons on my rig has about 5-5 1/2" from the muzzle. I have the scope mounted as far back in the rings (toward the breech) as it will allow. Are you concerned that the scope will extend past the muzzle? Or am I forgetting something?

T/C nimrod · « **Reply #12 on:** March 06, 2003, 10:37:51 AM »

I'm pretty sure I have something chambered in a 10" barrel in the safe - you take a look at your rig, and I'll see what I come up w/ on a barrel. Between the pair of us we'll get ya fixed up! :gun4:

T/C nimrod · « **Reply #13 on:** March 06, 2003, 04:03:29 PM »

Yeah, that should work for you. I have about 6-8" of barrel in front of a Simmons 3-9x. You should have 2.5-3" on a 10" barrel. Now, my scope hangs off the chamber end a fair amount, but once it's on a frame it's not too bad.

You need a short sunshade yet and you'll have the worlds first over-under Contender!! :-D

Good Luck - let us know how you like it!

T/C nimrod · « **Reply #14 on:** March 06, 2003, 04:21:49 PM »

Ken - shooting a Contender as we know it might as well be chucked out the window with this setup. The .22 w/ zero recoil is not a problem with eye relief. It does take some getting used to, but I'm sure you'll like it.

Hold off on the Simmons - you'll want something in the 8x-32x variable till it's all said and done.

My front sight ring is as close to the turret bulge as I can get it without touching. In other words the scope is as far forward as its going to go.

T/C nimrod · « **Reply #15 on:** March 10, 2003, 03:53:13 AM »

kenmc77777 - Well???( It was a beautiful weekend here in Pa. )

T/C nimrod · « **Reply #16 on:** March 10, 2003, 04:18:18 AM »

Ah yes, the dreaded new hobby syndrome - exactly why I don't golf!

Paladin · « **Reply #17 on:** March 10, 2003, 01:12:43 PM »

those old junk balls make great targets at about 80 yd's

T/C nimrod · « **Reply #18 on:** March 13, 2003, 01:46:21 AM »

Sorry, can't give you any first hand on the 6-24x's. For $89, I'd be tempted to get one, if it doesn't work - resell. I'm sure someone on the forum can help you though.