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« on: November 07, 2005, 05:52:52 AM »
Not sure what is going on here... I have sent an e-mail and pics to Cecil and am awaiting his report.

I just bought a custom .50 cal barrel from MGM and was shooting three pellets of 777 with various bullets. These pics are after 10-12 shots... .25 ACP brass was filthy inside and out as well as the gun.

Any ideas? The only thing I could come up with is that the barrel and breach plug threads were not to spec and allowing for some escaping through that way? I don't know what else to think? My brother was right next to me shooting a .25ACP breach plug with the factory TC ML barrel and his was clean??

Thoughts and expertise please...

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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2005, 08:00:46 AM »
Dunno if everyone has seen this yet, but it's an alternative to the 25 ACP conversion, it's made by PR, I think.


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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2005, 08:48:28 AM »
From what you said and the pic's, it looks like the barrel threads on the MGM custom may not be the same as the factory Encore barrels.
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2005, 09:41:29 AM »
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Dunno if everyone has seen this yet, but it's an alternative to the 25 ACP conversion, it's made by PR, I think.


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That may work in this situation due to the barrel being a custom barrel. But I personally would not want to go back to a small 209 primer size ignition system.
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2005, 11:55:56 AM »
I use the Variflame in my NEF Sidekick with Small Pistol Primers and it works wonerfully, I will never use anything else now. Jack.

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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2005, 12:24:32 PM »
I can't vouch for the system, I can't even legally use it here for hunting, but it sure looks like a good alternative...

http://www.prbullet.com/vf.htm

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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2005, 01:01:49 PM »
Amen brother!! The Variflame is awsome :grin: I alos get best results with Small Pistol Primers, very consistant and plenty of spark for real blackpowder or pyrodex. Jack.

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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2005, 01:58:05 PM »
I have the 25 acp in my Encore, no problems, and I use American Pioneer Powder, much cleaner than 777 pellets.

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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2005, 05:10:18 PM »
I haven't dealt with the 209s here, we're limited to traditional style caps, #11 or musket, so I use the flangeless RWS musket caps which are fairly easy to handle and I slip a short piece of surgical tubing over it and the nipple to keep water out. With a cap inside a piece of tubing, it makes a nice little package that's easy to install when needed. The musket caps work well with T7 loose powder, never have used or liked the pellets, too expensive and I like to fine tune my loads, just not my cup O'tea! :wink:
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« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2005, 05:13:10 PM »
should have never of sold the first gun huh!

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« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2005, 01:18:15 AM »
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Dunno if everyone has seen this yet, but it's an alternative to the 25 ACP conversion, it's made by PR, I think.


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I have one of these, I took it to the range 1 time and figured out it is not for me. I will be willing to sell ($20.oo shipped) or trade it .
It worked well enough, but for me it is just to easy to drop a primer out of my stand and not worry about them.  
 since I mostly just hunt with my 15" encore barrel and shots are normally way less then 75 yards and closer to 30-40 yards I get no real see no real advantage for me.

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« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2005, 03:00:56 AM »
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should have never of sold the first gun huh!


AMEN brother!  

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« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2005, 03:33:49 PM »
at least your back to a proven gun and a no need to figure out a load just load and shoot.

 nice to have that with no guess work!

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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2005, 02:38:58 AM »
ABSOLUTELY!

Four Pellets - 300 grn SST - and watch the deer dump!!!

This is, of course, after 4-8 shots off the bench to get her sighted in...  I'm confident that is all it will take!   :grin:

Good Luck next week!!!

Mark