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« on: November 15, 2005, 02:46:05 PM »
I want to european mount my deer head any suggestion?

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« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2005, 02:31:16 PM »
Hey Hustler:
 Been lookin for an article I thought I had on the subject and can't find it.
 Basically hang the thing in a pot so the antlers don't boil and simmer with a little soap, for a little while, to degrease. No bleach!!!
 Wish I could get more for ya.                            Woodbutcher

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« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2005, 04:20:44 PM »
Tips for Cleaning Skulls for a European Mount

A great way to display a whitetail, without spending a ton of money at the taxidermy shop, is to boil the skull yourself.

Some people like to bury the skull in the garden and put a plastic bag over the antlers to protect them from the elements. It works fine, but has some drawbacks:
1. You have to wait until spring to dig a hole and another couple months to finish the mount. That's a long time.
2. Neighborhood dogs can have a pretty funny sense of humor sometimes. If it's a giant buck, you'll have a tough time sleeping at night, worrying about the treasure you buried in the dirt out back.

First things first: skull soup is a stinky, time consuming enterprise that is sure to upset anyone sharing the kitchen. It also ruins a kettle. It's best to buy an big old kettle at a thrift shop, and take the operation outside in the heated garage with a hotplate, camping stove or gas grill.

Start out by cleaning the skull with a utility knife, pliers and a flat screwdriver. Wear leather gloves. These will be your tools of the trade. Designate them as such. You won't want to use these for anything else. Get all the skin off the skull and as much flesh as possible. The eyeballs will be very difficult. Depending on your decision, the brain could pose a challenge as well. When removing the head, if you decide to cut through the center of the skull (hacksaw), it'll make cleaning out the brain much easier.

Then, using water and a just a dash of household bleach, boil the skull for awhile. Be very careful not to use too much bleach. You do not want compromise the bone structure of the skull. This was a mistake I made most often when I first started cleaning skulls. Also, this is a hands-on project. It requires full attention at all times. You'll want to be very careful not to submerge the antler bases into the liquid. EVER! Even water will start to discolor the bases. Also, I always try to leave as much bark material and foliage around the bases. This gives the buck character. With a big spoon, slowly ladle the liquid around the top of the skull and other parts that aren't fully submerged.

After boiling, start picking away at it with your tools. After you feel like you've made some headway, fill up the kettle with pure hydrogen peroxide. You can buy this very reasonably at Target or Walmart. Let the skull soak in this for an hour or so, ladling the liquid around the skull. Take it out of the bath and start picking at it again. This part takes the longest.

Then, it's back into the soup for another round. This time, heat up the H2O2 and bring it to a boil. This is the most important step, as you'll see the skull get very nice and bone white. Make sure to constantly swish the liquid around the different parts of the skull, taking extra care not to get ANY on the antlers. If you do, spritz it off with some water. It's not the end of the world. Keep an eye on the burner; you don't want this to boil over.

After a series of cleaning, boiling, picking, boiling and cleaning and boiling...your skull should start to look pretty good. It's a big project; not something you can get done in one day. Obviously, messing around with brain material and deer glands isn't recommended.
Wash your hands frequently; wear an apron or designate a "skull soup outfit". Then, consider throwing the whole works in the woodstove when you're done. You'll be left with an impressive, pure white skull display for your bone room. Total cost: $10. Total time: about 18 hours or so.

If you happen to bleach part or all of an antler by mistake. A liberal treatment of corvan brown Kiwi shoe polish will return it to normal color.

Ask me how I know.

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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2005, 06:44:51 PM »
I highly recomend you look around for somebody with a colony of beatles.  The beatles are the best way I have found to clean a skull, they do a much better job than you will be able to by hand and all you have to do is clean the skull with peroxide and then bleach it white.  The hair bleach works best for the skulls, put it on with a tooth brush and  rinse off after a few minutes.  Its a stinky process to boil it down,  let the bugs do
the work for you.

If you can't find anyplace locally this place is supposd to do really good work.
http://moacustomskulls.com/index.php

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« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2005, 02:47:01 AM »
Us farmer types are kind of cheap.  Here's how we do it.  Most farmers have one of those pressure washer things.  You know, the type that use HOT water and pressure.  Well, just tie that skull to something with some wire and blast away.  It will peel the hide right off.  And when done there will be nothing left but bone.  WDO
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« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2005, 08:26:26 AM »
you can do  it without heat or pressure but it takes longer.  I've done 3 deer and one smaller skull with just plain tap water.  Dump the water every few days (depending on how much it stinks).  It'll take a few weeks.  The upside is that it doesn't damage or shrink the bone as heat and pressure do.  It's also completely work free.

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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2005, 02:54:35 AM »
I've done two European mounts this year and one last year. I did my father in laws Muley and a buck I shot during muzzleloader season this year. I found it ain't that hard of a project. It's actually getting easier. I first skin the hide off the head. I then submerge the skull in a deep pot, in the garage, of boiling water with a little Dawn soap mixed in. As mentioned earlier be carefull so that the antlers don't actually get submerged.  I let this boil for about 2 hours. I then take it out and clean as much loose meat off as I can. Then it goes back into the water for about another hour. Again its taken out and cleaned of any loose flesh. If needed its dunked in the boiling water again to get the remaining flesh loose. I have found that I haven't had to boil longer then 3 hours yet. I then take some compressed air and blow out the nasel cavity to get any and all loose stuff out of it. I obtained some hair bleaching solution from a local hair salon. The stuff I got was 30% hydrogen peroxide, much stronger then the liquid stuff you but in the brown bottle. I brushed the paste on the skull being carefull not to get any on the antlers. I let it sit over night and wash it off in the morning. That's it. Pretty simple. The last two I did I started each after work at around 6 in the evening. By morning I had my completed white skull. I plan on doing all my antler mounts this way from now on....
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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2006, 09:20:14 AM »
I just did 4 deer heads. After removing the capes I boiled  them for a couple of hours than peeled off all the loose flesh. I used needlenose pliers to get some of the flesh out of the nasal passages and a piece of 11 gauge wire bent into a hook to remove the brains from the spinalcord opening at the base of the skull. Removing the brains was the most time consuming part of the process. I used a small brass brush to clean around the antler bases and to remove small particules of flesh. I could have bleached the heads, but the cleaning process did a very god job of turning the head an off white color and time will finish the job. Worm
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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2006, 10:25:58 PM »
I knew of a couple of guys in the west who put the skulls on ant hills.  Came back a week later, used a little peroxide and they were done.

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« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2009, 04:06:23 AM »
Mountain Mike's makes an awesome looking reproduction skull.  All you have to do is put your antlers on the "skull"....takes about 20-30 min. and costs around $30.00.  These look alot better than some of the early reproduction skulls, Cabela's has them or they can be gotten from Van Dyke's Taxidermy on the web.

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« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2009, 06:08:14 PM »
Peroxide is the key... in Europe you take your hunting license to the pharmacy and they will sell you some HO that is 40% or so.  It gets brushed on several times and left to sit and then rinse and scrape some more.  Do it again until white and CLEAN.

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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2009, 06:15:40 PM »
Never use bleach!!!!!!!!!! It will eat up the bone!!!

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Re: european mount
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2009, 03:57:20 AM »
heres how its done in my shop. take the head and freeze it untill the flys come out then wrap in plastic with a way in for the fly's. the maggots will have it clean in about a week. it is stinky, after the maggots are done wash with dawn. now go to the sallon supply and buy 20% perizode the stuff for making woman dumb (blond). paint on to bleach the skull and you are done.
Boiling hurts the bone, bleach will eat the bone.
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« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2009, 01:22:38 PM »

  For crying out loud.  Most of these procedures sound, well, gross and very very time consuming.

  I vote for freezing it until warm weather, and then staking it out on a red anthill for about a week. Let them use the plyers and wire to remove the brain!

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« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2009, 05:23:54 PM »
Probably the absolute grossest, and laziest way of doing a Euro mount, but the way I started out doing mine....

After the kill, let the skull, with hide and all on it, sit out in the open for a couple of days and the flies will blow it real good. You already see where I'm going with this right? Then grab a heavy duty trash bag, and wrap up the skull taking some care to tie it tightly around the base of the antlers. Set this whole thing in a good sunny spot for about a month. The roof of my shed works great. The maggots will do all of the work for you. You'll know when everything is working real good because the bag, if sealed up good, will start looking like a balloon.

Now comes the fun part......

Wait for a day with a good steady breeze, and the cooler the better. Grab the water hose and CAREFULLY remove the bag from the skull, keeping the skull downwind at all times. Wash off all the maggots and jello like substance left behind. I do not recommend eating a large meal before this step.

Dilute 1 cup of bleach into a 5 gallon bucket of water. Place skull in water where the antlers DO NOT touch the bleach. Place paper towels on the portion of the skull that's not submerged. The paper towels will wick the solution up on top of the skull. Let sit overnight.

Remove the skull from bleach solution, and rinse very well with water hose.

Let sit out in the sun for a couple of days, tape off antlers, and airbrush the skull a nice flat white.

I still use this process when it's warm enough outside. But we also boil a few too, depending on the weather.


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