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« on: November 18, 2005, 09:55:41 PM »
I am looking to reload some 223 for coyote hunting, but the farm that I will be hunting is in a suburban area. I want to download the rounds for safety reasons.

My question is "How low of a load/velocity can I go before the action will not cycle, but yet still be effective on yotes?"

Any experiences?

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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2005, 03:59:27 PM »
You may be better off loading some light weight frangible bullets up real fast so they will just turn to dust when they hit something rather than down load a heavier bullet that may bounce around.  If you need something that doesn't go far you could try the Berger 30gr HP's, they will go fast for a short while and then die off, they have a terriable BC.  Larry
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2005, 10:40:03 PM »
Still waiting on my Bushmaster rifle to get here! VM
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« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2005, 04:36:51 PM »
Hi varmit master. What is this? Are you saying you might miss one? If not any  softpt in the 45 to 55 grn should be ok. It might be worse to slow them down  than to shoot them fast. There won't be much bullet left after passing though coyote unless they are traveling to slow or made to hold together. Of course I am talking 220 swift not 223 don't know what the velocity difference would make on bullet break up would be between these two. Don't kill many much over 100yds when calling the around here.

 Noise may more of an issue than bullet selection if close to too many tree huggers.
A guy at work said a tree hugger was going around a thowing salt blocks on the ground by people treestands. salt blocks to attachdeer to shoot them are illegal around these parts. and driving up and down the road blowing theirhorn the mornming deer season came in, they also dumped a bunch of human hair and other people smelling object at one of the mayjor deer crossing  in that area. They know who did it but can't prove it yet.  She went into one of the resterants one morinig when there was a bunch of deer hunters in there and the owner made her leave, before something happened.
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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2005, 12:48:34 AM »
Hi swiftman sorry to here about all that bad luck. Sounds like you have some wild people up that way lol. You could come down and go hunting with me. But i havent seen only one small 6 point buck in rifle season and let it go. I have seen a ton of doe's But no bucks. KB look at some Hornady 50gr or 55gr SXSP bullets they should work for what you want to use them for. VM :D
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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2005, 07:14:39 AM »
Where I will be hunting is a suburban area, so Id like to keep the noise to a minimum, but Id like to know that a round that passes through, or....gulp....misses (not me!!!) isn't going to bounce around the neighborhood.
 
Im not too concerned about the hides, just getting rid of the yotes (hows that for an excuse?  When deer season is over, yote season will heat up for me).  
 
With the sxsp's what velocity should they be loaded too for max fragmentation?  We are talking only 1-2 shots fired while hunting, so noise is secondary to fragmentation.
 
Keep you ideas coming,
 
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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2005, 06:13:44 PM »
How a bullet fragments has more to do with how much it is spun up than how fast it is going.  You could probably push a 40gr bullet like a Barnes varmintathor or VLC to about 3700fps or a little more in a .223, and with a 1 in 9 twist it would explode about the same as the same bullet at 4200fps out of a 22-250 with a 1 in 14 twist.  Walmart has some white box .223 45gr Winchester HP bullets you may want to try that make 3600fps (they are also cheap), they shoot very well in my handi rifle.  Larry
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« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2005, 08:35:28 PM »
Hi he is right the Win 45gr JHP white box at walmart will do the job. And they blow up good and they are cheap. I have used the SXSP in a 22 250 and i know a guy that is shooting them in a 223. They will work for what you want to do. But nosie  you cant help . You can push them to fast that they will blow up becasue the fast twist of a 223. . I have  read where people have done it But i use in my 22 250 36.5 grs of Varget with a 50gr SXSP and i havent made them blow up in the air. yet. VM
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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2005, 02:59:36 AM »
yep, winchester white box 45 grain hp's.  or reload some nosler 40 grain ballistic tips.   either will work.   still, always be aware of the target and beyond....
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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2005, 01:48:47 PM »
Might also try the 40gr Vmax,
very quick to self destruct incase of a miss.
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« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2005, 12:25:08 AM »
Thank You for all of your input.  I will definitely give the Walmart  white box a try.
 
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