Thanks for the replies. I think I have figured it out, When I asked him if the bolt handle was turned all the way down he wasn't sure so I pulled the bullets from the 2 rounds that didn't fire dumped the powder and tried them in his gun, both fired. Now I just have to get some time to try some more ammo and see if I can get a failure to fire with the bolt all the way down. Until then he'll be using my 7mm mag #1. Thanks again. rugerman