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Offline 6Shooter

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« on: December 02, 2005, 10:10:44 AM »
I'm thinking of cutting my Vaquero 5.5'' down to 4.5/8. Anyone who may have done this before, do you have any thoughts?
 Any names on gunsmiths that do this kind of work?
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2005, 11:02:25 AM »
I had my 6.5" stainless 357 Blackhawk cut back to 5.5". It cost me $75 from a local gun smith here in SW Virginia. I thought the price was very reasonable, and it shoots great.

He just cut the barrel pretty close to 5.5", chucked it up in a mill, indicated it in, and squared the muzzle as he brought it down to length. I checked with a couple other smiths. They wanted to take off the barrel, and cut it back with a lathe. That would've been Ok, except they both wanted around $200 to do it plus the cost of drilling/tapping for the Single-Six sight.

I thought $75, and a few dollars for the new sight was a way better deal! LOL!

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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2005, 01:23:17 AM »
Jerry is right, I had my BFR cut down by Magnum Research and the charge for cutting my 475 Linebaugh back to 4 1/2 inches was only $50.  They put on an inverted crown that looks great and shoots even better.  Turned a real powerhouse sixgun into a real sweet packin gun.

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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2005, 12:27:17 AM »
I have a Blackhawk 357/9mm conv. with 6 1/2" barrel.
Why do folks cut their barrels down? Is there some advantage to that.
Is there velocity loss or accuracy loss?
Because of the seperation between cylinder & barrel, so much of the pressure escapes there and not forced through the barrel, does a longer barrel reduce velocity because of that?? Thanks for any feedback.

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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2005, 01:03:13 AM »
I had Mag-na-Port cut my barrel down for my BFR in 500 Mag, and they inverted the muzzle crown. I went from 7 1/2 inchs to 6 inches. Cost for cut and crown was $65.00.
Check it out for yourself at. http://www.magnaport.com/misc.html
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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2005, 01:08:32 AM »
Quote from: Rogmatt
I have a Blackhawk 357/9mm conv. with 6 1/2" barrel.
Why do folks cut their barrels down? Is there some advantage to that.
Is there velocity loss or accuracy loss?
Because of the seperation between cylinder & barrel, so much of the pressure escapes there and not forced through the barrel, does a longer barrel reduce velocity because of that?? Thanks for any feedback.


I cut my barrel down because it was not offered in a shorter barrel. I preferred the shorter barrel for hunting. Also some do it when they get a gun and decide they want a shorter barrel, it is less expensive to get it cut down that to take a beating on trading it in and getting a new gun. I am sure there are other reasons also.  :D
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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2005, 01:20:26 AM »
Technically speaking the shorter barrel is going to be stiffer and therefore more accurate.  In the case of revolvers however not enough to make much difference.  On the other hand if a barrel is not accurate from the factory then shortening and recrowning can sometimes make a huge impact.  The primary reason for shortening barrels, at least in my opinion is to improve handling and packing.  Going from a 6 or even 8 inch barrel down to a 5 or 4 inch in the really big bores does not have much effect on effective stopping power.  The big bores do not rely on velocity as much as caliber and bullet weight.  I am sure others here will have additional or different thoughts on the subject.

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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2005, 11:59:24 AM »
Quote from: Rogmatt
I have a Blackhawk 357/9mm conv. with 6 1/2" barrel.
Why do folks cut their barrels down? Is there some advantage to that.
Is there velocity loss or accuracy loss?
Because of the seperation between cylinder & barrel, so much of the pressure escapes there and not forced through the barrel, does a longer barrel reduce velocity because of that?? Thanks for any feedback.


The reason I had my 6.5" Blackhawk cut back is because they don't offer a 357 Blackhawk in a 5.5" barrel. 5.5" is just my personal preference in revolver barrel length, as I think(in Rugers anyway) that 5.5" offers the best compromise in balistics, balance, and handling.

Unless you have an excessive amount of barrel/cylinder gap, you really only lose a very small amount of velocity through loss of pressure at that point. My 357 Blackhawk only has .003" gap.

Generally, just like in rifles, with a longer revolver barrel, you'll pick up some velocity. Just how much depends on the bullet weight/style, and powder you're shooting in it. Basically the same balistic rules apply to revolvers as rifles, but in most cases to a slightly lesser degree. I lost around 20-40 fps on average by cutting 1" off my Blackhawk depending on the load.

It shot great before I cut it down, and it still shoots great so accuracy pretty much stayed the same. The one thing that changed is that for some reason, I tend to shoot a 5.5" revolver better offhand, which is likely more of a mental thing than physical.

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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2005, 03:14:39 AM »
Sounds like everyone is on the right track here going with the Smith. I was glad to hear that no one headed out to the garage for the hacksaw :)
Wouldn't have to be out of square too much for gas to blow by on the short side and upset the bullet. :D

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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2005, 12:28:42 PM »
Quote from: SJPrice
Jerry is right, I had my BFR cut down by Magnum Research and the charge for cutting my 475 Linebaugh back to 4 1/2 inches was only $50.  They put on an inverted crown that looks great and shoots even better.  Turned a real powerhouse sixgun into a real sweet packin gun.


Anyway for you to post a pic?  Scoped or unscoped?

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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2005, 04:01:42 PM »
Hello all,
I guess I'm just backwards from most people that I read on this forum, because I found a Ruger BH 357 w/4 1/2" barrel at the flee market and had Ruger put a 7 1/2" barrel on it for $88.

I like the longer barrel because it gets the flames and blast way out in front of the shooter. :-D  :D

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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2005, 11:37:02 AM »
Sorry, but I can not post a picture.  I would be happy to email a picture to someone who could post it though.