Author Topic: Corelokt does it again (Read 2501 times)

rickt300 · « **on:** December 07, 2005, 03:55:52 PM »

I hit a 200 plus pound feral hog in the neck last Sunday and down he went. The bullet did not exit, created massive damage and hit exactly on my point of aim just in front of the shoulder. Where did this bullet fail in anyones opinion? Range was around 150 yards. It was a 165 grain PSPCL pushed to 2650 fps out of my 24 inch barrelled 308.

PEPAW · « **Reply #1 on:** December 08, 2005, 02:01:42 AM »

Those hog's front shoulders are covered with some tough hide and gristle. I guess that is the reason it did not exit.
I had a strange looking exit during Thanksgiving with a .260 - 140 corelokt. 160 lb dressed buck at only 80 yards. The shot was perfectly broadside low through the front of the shoulder. The bullet did not sound like it hit at all. Passed through the "front" of the chest cavity between ribs on the entry and through a rib on the exit. No blood trail for 40 yards and then only a spot or two for the next 10 until he fell. The exit wound was very small. My guess is it did not exand because it didn't hit anything solid. Failure, no. But small exit wound with no blood trail made for a tense few minutes until I found him by going in the general direction of last seeing him.

pepaw

jro45 · « **Reply #2 on:** December 08, 2005, 03:23:27 AM »

I shoot my boar while he was running at about 75 yds with my 7mm bullet was 160 nosler. My round didn't exit either it shatered when it hit bone then went thru the heart in pieses.

rickt300 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 08, 2005, 06:50:13 AM »

The hog I shot was the meanest looking one I ever saw. He had small hindquarters, huge shoulders, neck and head, thick hair and fat layer. I haven't skinned him yet as the recent cold front has frozen him. Be interesting to see what condition the bullet is in after negotiating the heck bones right in front of the shoulder. He was also covered in thick dried mud. Shot him right at dush, he was the smallest of the five pigs there and I had to shoot quick. When I closed the windows in the Tower stand and climbed out of it dark was closing in. I went and got the truck but coulden't load him by myself. The other hogs came back and circled the truck making a lot of noise in the oak leaves while I tried to load him and then tie him to the truck so I could drag him back to the camp, they got very close and made me very nervous. The light I had was a spotlight that only stayed on if you had the trigger pushed and I had to put it down while trying to load him and then tie him to the truck. As soon as the light went off the pigs got a bit vocal and they sounded pissed that I shot their little brother. The trigger return spring on my rifle broke when I shot the pig (perfect timing) so to get the rifle to cock I had to hold the trigger forward making for slow shooting. Put a new spring on it yesterday.

victorcharlie · « **Reply #4 on:** December 08, 2005, 10:01:06 AM »

Remington Corelot........was there ever a doubt in your mind? Again, it is my guess that the corelot has killed more big game in the United States than any other single bullet made. They've worked for decades, they still work well, and hopefully will endure well into the future.........and at a fraction of the cost of the so called "Premium" bullets.

rickt300 · « **Reply #5 on:** December 08, 2005, 07:30:03 PM »

Iwas just putting out some baitfor the guys that can't kill anything unless they use a TSX or Nosler partition.

rickt300 · « **Reply #6 on:** December 08, 2005, 07:48:38 PM »

I have shot all of my game this year with neck shots except a doe I shot in hill county. The 9 point buck was angling toward me from right to left and I shot for his neck in front of the shoulder, it exited thru his far shoulder blade. That bullet was a 180 grain Speer mag tip and it held together very well as the exit hole was only half an inch after going thru a good bit of bone. No need for a blood trail but he didn't bleed a drop. The doe was shot thru the spine behind the shoulder and needed a finisher. I was using my 45-70 which slammed the 350 grain Hornady right thru also with what appeared to be no expansion, once again very little blood with the caliber size holes in and out. I think to get a good blood trailyou have to hit arteries, the lower part of the lungs or nick the heart. Iam going to fill my doe tags with the 6MM Remington and 80 grain PSP's. I really like expansion more than exit holes aslong as penetration is adequate.

Slamfire · « **Reply #7 on:** December 08, 2005, 10:29:32 PM »

On that 140 grain out of the .260, I'd be willing to bet it did expand. See the thread 6.5x55 not expanding. :wink:

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #8 on:** December 09, 2005, 01:57:54 AM »

Quote from: rickt300

Iwas just putting out some baitfor the guys that can't kill anything unless they use a TSX or Nosler partition.

That is great they worked for you so well. But I don't see the need to be a troll. JMHO. :?

PEPAW · « **Reply #9 on:** December 09, 2005, 02:36:05 AM »

Slamfire, thanks for that tip. I read the thread and it sounds like the 6.5 is famous for performing without destroying the meat. That is exactly what happened to me, but I wish I had a little larger hole for blood to leak out . I have killed lots of deer and hogs with the .260, but the only other time the .260 failed to anchor or leave a trail was with the early Ballistic Tip.
Just thought I would pass along that unusual Corelokt story.

pepaw

victorcharlie · « **Reply #10 on:** December 09, 2005, 03:03:49 AM »

RedHawk.......You're not getting tired the the magnum and premium bullet thing are you? LOL.......... :-D :-D :-D

Ramrod · « **Reply #11 on:** December 09, 2005, 03:55:55 AM »

I'm sure glad big game animals can't read the Gun Rags, or all the advertising hype about Premium bullets and Short Mags, Ultra Mags, Super Short Mags, ect. They just might decide they shouldn't be falling down dead to all these standard cailbers and boring old Core-Lockt bullets. :-D

victorcharlie · « **Reply #12 on:** December 09, 2005, 04:58:37 AM »

Yea....me to Ramrod......but I understand there is a push by the liberals to teach them to read........and to vote.......

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #13 on:** December 09, 2005, 06:09:57 AM »

Quote from: Ramrod

I'm sure glad big game animals can't read the Gun Rags, or all the advertising hype about Premium bullets and Short Mags, Ultra Mags, Super Short Mags, ect. They just might decide they shouldn't be falling down dead to all these standard cailbers and boring old Core-Lockt bullets. :-D

I never said Core-Lockt bullets would not work, I just choose not to use them. And everyone knows that if Ramrod says it, it must be true. :roll: He is better than any gun rag out there. :bye:

jro45 · « **Reply #14 on:** December 09, 2005, 08:28:50 AM »

I shoot Core-lockt bullets, noslers, Swift sciroccos, Hornady interlocks, Sierra Spitzer, Speer Hot core. I guess I almost shoot them all. What ever the hunting case may be. I may have left one or two out.

Ramrod · « **Reply #15 on:** December 09, 2005, 09:19:26 AM »

Whoops. Looks like someone pushed Redhawk 1's hot button, and he feels he has to take it out on me.

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And everyone knows that if Ramrod says it, it must be true. He is better than any gun rag out there.

At least we agree on this! :-D :-D :-D :-D

victorcharlie · « **Reply #16 on:** December 09, 2005, 09:58:42 AM »

I think he's got at least three of them hot buttons......one labeled Magnum, one labeled Leupold the other labeled premium........I know that so I tries real hard not to push em......

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #17 on:** December 09, 2005, 01:14:07 PM »

Quote from: victorcharlie

I think he's got at least three of them hot buttons......one labeled Magnum, one labeled Leupold the other labeled premium........I know that so I tries real hard not to push em......

You missed one there victorcharlie. My BS button. :-D

Lawdog · « **Reply #18 on:** December 09, 2005, 01:27:41 PM »

Quote from: victorcharlie

Yea....me to Ramrod......but I understand there is a push by the liberals to teach them to read........and to vote.......

We're talking about Medium Bore Rifles here and not anything political! Lets keep it to that OK? Lawdog

Lawdog · « **Reply #19 on:** December 09, 2005, 01:32:24 PM »

Quote from: rickt300

Iwas just putting out some baitfor the guys that can't kill anything unless they use a TSX or Nosler partition.

We're not going to start any baiting of hunters/shooters with different opinions and view points just to see if arguments start. A great way to get threads locked and/or deleted. Lawdog

Ramrod · « **Reply #20 on:** December 09, 2005, 02:01:05 PM »

Quote from: Lawdog

We're talking about Medium Bore Rifles here and not anything political! Lets keep it to that OK? Lawdog

Fine with me, we don't want to upset anyone from the, ahem.."Left coast". Thats where alot of the "Premium bullet, Magnum caliber" fans live.

rickt300 · « **Reply #21 on:** December 09, 2005, 07:32:28 PM »

Sorry about the premium bullet baiting,didn't realize how sensitive some of us are. Well I skinned the hog this morning which was tough due to him being frozen. The bullet hit just in front of his left shoulder, angled downward thru the spine and came out his right shoulder just behind the bone and under the shoulder blade making a 1 inch hole thru the shoulder and did exit though the hole was small. The grisle/fat layer almost completely closed the hole. I was shooting from a tower stand around 25 feet off the ground which explains the downward angle. There were a few small fragments on the inside of the hide around the exit hole. I'd have to say this was good performance. I bought 1000 of the 165 grain corelokts on a sale from Midway and have shot probably 400 of them and they shoot 3 into an inch from my light contoured 24 inch barrel. I loaded 150 grain Nosler partitions in my 270 for elk this year but alas no snow so no elk to test them on. If I get a chance to go to the rifle range and check the 270's zero before next weekend I will take it with me back to the lease and possibly test the Partitions on a deer or another hog. I always check zero after the rifle takes a trip on an airplane, you should have seen the scars on my aluminum gun case.

victorcharlie · « **Reply #22 on:** December 10, 2005, 12:46:56 AM »

Yes sir Mr. Lawdog Sir! :eek:

rickt300 · « **Reply #23 on:** December 10, 2005, 03:32:52 AM »

Might be interesting to check out some of the earlier argumentive threads to see if anything of value exists in them, Iam always interested in bullet performance information. I have only bought 2 boxes of Ballistic tips due to the continuous bad publicity and the only true bullet failures I have experienced were with Sierra's.

oso45-70 · « **Reply #24 on:** December 10, 2005, 07:36:33 AM »

Quote from: Lawdog

Quote from: rickt300
Iwas just putting out some baitfor the guys that can't kill anything unless they use a TSX or Nosler partition.

We're not going to start any baiting of hunters/shooters with different opinions and view points just to see if arguments start. A great way to get threads locked and/or deleted. Lawdog

Gentlemen

I am not a doctor but, A shot of Midol might help, Or wait untill the full moon passes before posting, Now you Boys go stand in the hall untill you can get along :bye:

...............Joe...............

rickt300 · « **Reply #25 on:** December 10, 2005, 11:32:01 AM »

Has all this been done before? Is Corelokt some kind of dirty word? I was just reporting on good bullet performance from a particular bullet. If this means corelokts are so bad then I am going to have to try Nosler Ballistic tips on the next hog.

beemanbeme · « **Reply #26 on:** December 10, 2005, 01:38:47 PM »

No, corelokts are excellent bullets and have been killing game in a efficient manner for a long, long time. While I do use several different brands of bullets, corelokts remain one of my first go to choices.

rickt300 · « **Reply #27 on:** December 10, 2005, 03:06:35 PM »

I have actually used few corelokt's on game since I like Winchester brass and they come with Power points mostly. I have taken one antelope with the 130 grain corelokt out of a 270 and a mule deer with a 100 grain CL out of a 6MM Remington. Come to think of it several deer and a few small feral hogs with the 30-30 and the 150 grain CL. And a feral hog with the 150 grain CL out of a 300 Winchester magnum. No failures come to mind and these were all factory rounds with the exception of the hog just shot with the 308.

nomosendero · « **Reply #28 on:** December 10, 2005, 06:01:31 PM »

I read the original post in this thread several times thinking I missed something. I did not. A question that I would ask about this is why would
the Corelokt not work in this application. First & foremost, the velocity was
modest, 2,650mv (2,400 or so at 150 yds.), so bullet blow-up or overexpansion should not have been expected. Also, the bullet did not hit
the point of the shoulder first, with the gristle plate & then the tough shoulder of the Hog may have limited penetration, may have, may not have. But the bullet did do a number on the neck bones & the vitals, & that
is not bad. I think that you placed the bullet in the right place & BTW good
shot! I do not think that it would be crazy to use a premium bullet to shoot from shoulder to shoulder if you choose to do so. I have killed a few Hogs in South AR. Swamp country myself & a couple of times it was the only shot I had. In the other situations that you mentioned, again I would say why not. If the shot is not long, BC does not matter, also the fact that other bullets are much more accurate does not matter much under 250-
300 yards. I am sure that we all remember the little discussion that we
had about Corelokts in another thread a couple of months ago since most
of you were in it. I gave reasons that other bullets are better for what I
hunt, especially in a .25cal & those reasons are still just as valid. But
to be consistant I mentioned the fact that Rick's application (caliber, weight
velocity, & animals he was shooting was a good Corelokt application. Go
back & look. I was enjoying just reading the post until this continual ribbing of premium bullet users starting getting a little strange. I have
never said that corelokts would not kill a Hog at Modest ranges with a 165
Gr. 30 caliber. Did someone else? I think not & I sometimes use conventional bullets in woods hunting here in AR.
The bottom line is Corelokts work OK in some applications like this one &
are far from ideal for others, & what is wrong with that? Also, if you want
to use them all the time, knock yourself out.

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #29 on:** December 10, 2005, 07:38:42 PM »

nomosendero, in the post you are talking about this continual ribbing of premium bullet users starting getting a little strange. You are talking about the other post correct. Because no one here on this thread started any bashing or saying the Core-Lockt bullets would not work. The reason the thread took a turn for the worst like always is, the comment made. "I was just putting out some bait for the guys that can't kill anything unless they use a TSX or Nosler partition."

My point in all of this is, use what works for you, I only give feedback what works for me. Yea some guys get tired of hearing my success and others with premium bullets, but we hear just as much about non-premium bullets, but don't make a point of bashing there choice.

But other than that, your post was very well written.