Author Topic: THINKING ABOUT BUYING MY FIRST REMINGTON NEED HELP !! (Read 584 times)

JEFF WARD2 · « **on:** December 15, 2005, 05:58:44 PM »

HEY GUYS IM THINKING ABOUT BUYING MY FIRST REM. AND NEED HELP DECIDING !!
I KNOW I WANT A 300 WIN MAG AS I WILL BE HUNTING DEER AND ELK WITH IT ..
IM NOT A BIG FAN OF PRETTY GUNS BECAUSE I USE THEM FOR HUNTING AND SOMETIMES THE HUNTS ARE RATHER RUGGED.. I DONT CARE FOR THE SHINY STAINLESS I PERFER BLUED. AND I LIKE SYNTHETIC STOCKS BECAUSE I DONT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT GETTING THE PRETTY WOOD ALL SCRATCHED UP..
I HAVENT HAD THE CHANCE TO SHOULDER ANY OF THE ONES IM KINDA OF INTERESTED IN YET BUT WANTED TO HEAR FROM YOU GUYS THAT KNOW THE REMINGTONS BEFORE I CAN GET TO THE GUN SHOP.
I ALSO WANT TO MENTION THAT I AM A LITTLE ON THE SHORT SIDE IM 5FT 3 AND COMFERT IS IMPORTANT , IVE HELD ALOT OF GUNS THAT WERE JUST TO LONG AND DONT LIKE THE FEEL OF THAT..
THE GUNS I HAVE SOME INTEREST IN ARE THE
700XCR 300 WIN MAG
700CDL 300 WIN MAG
700SPS 300 WIN MAG
WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK OF THESE,AND WHY..
THANKS IN ADVANCE.. JEFF..
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR OF ANY OTHERS THAT YOU MIGHT THINK THAT WOULD FIT MY NEEDS ASWELL..
AND IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE IN WIN MAG.,ULTRA MAG
AND THE WIN SHORT MAG.. IM NOT AFRAID OF HEAVY RECOIL, KINDA CRAZY I GUESS I LIKE IT SO EVEN THOUGH IM ON THE SHORT SIDE I CAN HANDLE THE HEAVY KICKERS..
THANKS AGAIN FOR ANY HELP ON THIS !!!!!
I ALREADY HAVE AN ENCORE IN 7MM REM MAG BUT I AM GETTING THE REMINGTON FEVER !!!!

Graybeard · « **Reply #1 on:** December 15, 2005, 06:13:38 PM »

Remington is my favorite rifle brand. I have a bunch. Let me provide you a bit of advice regarding your purchase that is slightly off the track of what you've asked for.

SS guns are not shiny. In fact they are less reflective than blued guns which generally have a high polish finish as compared to a dull bead blasted finish on the SS guns. So they are actually less not more readily seen by game.

You're going to need the factory stock cut no matter which you get. I consider wood easier to cut and replace pad on than plastic stocks but it might can be done on both. Why not consider a laminated wood stock then not worry about the finish.

Personally I'd recommend the .35 Whelen for your use over the .300 mag. If a .30-06 won't get the job done you need a larger bullet not a faster one.

JEFF WARD2 · « **Reply #2 on:** December 15, 2005, 06:29:20 PM »

THANKS GREYBEARD FOR THE INFO.. I WILL TAKE IN CONSIDERATION OF THE GUNS YOU HAVE MENTIONED..
HOW HARD IS IT TO CUT DOWN THE STOCK WHERE I LIVE ( IN A ONE HORSE TOWN ) WE DONT HAVE A SMITH>> TO TAKE IT TO..
AND FOR SOME REASON IM INFACTUATED WITH THE 300..
AND I DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE 35 WHEELING ..HOW ARE THEY FOR LONG SHOTS..
I ALSO WILL BE USING FACTORY LOADS ,ARE THEY PRETTY AVALIBLE AT THE LOCAL GUN SHOPS AND WAL-MARTS..?
THANKS AGAIN..JEFF..

Mike103 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 15, 2005, 10:55:30 PM »

Jeff, Please take the caps lock off you are screaming in internet speak! It is hard on the eyes. MIKE.

JEFF WARD2 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 15, 2005, 11:32:42 PM »

sorry mike , i didnt know i was posting so loud ..lol..lol..
i havent used a computer to much and im just learning how to use this thing, and i quess how to spell again ..lol.lol..

beemanbeme · « **Reply #5 on:** December 16, 2005, 06:04:39 AM »

I wouldn't angst over it too much. If you're gonna be shooting store bought ammo, just get a 30-06 and be done with it. Rem makes them with any stock you could want on them. And they load factory ammo all the way from 120gr bullets up to 220gr bullets. And the ammo is available everywhere. You will hear all sorts of esoteric suggestions but for a first rifle remember this, the 30-06 is the old gal that puts supper on the table. Every day; anywhere.

I would go at it a little differently than you however. I would get the rifle in a CDL model (for looks) and buy a medium (or less) priced aftermarket synthetic stock for field work or bad weather. Its just that taking a plastic contrivance out of the gun safe and rubbing a tack rag over it doesn't ring my bell like a nice wood stock does.

One point: regardless of what you end up with, when you buy your hunting ammo, get several boxes FROM THE SAME LOT. Different brands will shoot to different points and you will find variations from lot to lot even with the same brand.

And finally, when you get into reloading, the 30-06 is an easy cartridge to reload with a wide range of components available.

Andy2590 · « **Reply #6 on:** December 16, 2005, 03:56:30 PM »

I have a 700 sps stainless in 300 win mag. I really like the gun. Not as bad recoil as I expected, and its not a bad looking gun (for those of you who can appreciate a synthetic stainless gun). I like the XCR, but I couldn't see a reason to pay that much more for it.

JEFF WARD2 · « **Reply #7 on:** December 16, 2005, 07:19:41 PM »

thanks for the replies..
i know the 30.06. is a great round i had one in a savage and it was a good gun brought home alot of meat with it..
just to clear it up ive had a few rifles , but never owned a reminton..
but i will admite i dont know to much about guns in general, i was strickly a bow hunter for more than 20 years and just recently have gotten interested in the gun scene.
ive had the 30.06,270,and now have a 7mm rem mag.. oh yea and a243 handgun..
thanks again..jeff.. any more imput would be very greatfull i need to learn all i can..

killdeer · « **Reply #8 on:** December 18, 2005, 10:13:21 AM »

Jeff, nothing wrong with a 300 win mag, I own a 300 ultra mag and before that my experience with other chamberings is nearly identical to your own experience. Ballistic charts were the sole basis for my decision as at that time I never gave thought to a forum for advice and hadn't read a gun mag in years. Here is what I think I have learned since my purchase based on my experience only. The only advantage to any .30 cal mag is higher velocity when compared to a 30 06 so it shoots a little flatter and farther. IMHO this translates to very little real world advantage when hunting particularly on whitetails because out to 300 yds a 30 06 is pretty flat already and that is probably farther than I would be willing to shoot under the best of conditions at big game. With elk it might make more sense on an occasional oppurtunity but in the end you likely wont kill an elk with it that the 30 06 would not have done just as well. Remember, you are still firing the same size projectile it's just moving a little faster. Basically it's a cartridge with nearly the same performance as all you have owned in the past once it reaches the animal. If being able to shoot a little flatter and farther is a huge bonus to you then I would say you are on the right track. Here are a few drawbacks I have noticed with mine: Noise, expensive ammo, a bit much for whitetail, too much tissue damage, must use a premium bullet because the velocity window is so high. Here is what I do like: the rifle itself, 700 CDL, recoils very nicely, Yesterday I shot a doe, watched her drop through the scope, chambered another round and drilled the button buck with her. Now having said all that, I'm glad I bought the 300 ultr mag because now I know firsthand about recoil and performance etc. but I have already made my mind up that .35 cal is the way to go if you really want more than a 30 06, 7mm, 270 etc. and you actually wan't it to be appropriate for N. American game. The 35 whelen is basically a 30 06 with a .358 bullet and is probably just about perfect if you wan't a step up that will make a real difference once the bullet impacts the animal. A bigger hole for easier tracking for one thing. Also I've noticed that sometimes with my ultra mag deer display little sign they have been hit even though it's a well placed shot and the first time it happened I decided I missed after a cursory look in the rain for a blood trail but now that I have seen this a few times I realise I probably killed that deer and didn't follow up. As for the wood stock thing, if I was to do it over I would get the CDL and purchase an aftermarket synthetic and have the besrt of both worlds. Hope this helps.