Author Topic: What Version??? (Read 778 times)

Lawdog · « **on:** December 17, 2005, 02:11:34 PM »

I was at the club yesterday and found in the brass barrel some .223 Rem. fired brass that is an improved version. But which one is what I am wondering. The case diameter is the same .376 at the shoulder as it is at the web. The shoulder e shoulder is 45 degrees(so says two gunsmiths at our club) instead of the standard 40 degrees that most Ackley versions have. This is where I am stumped. Anyone got an idea of what improved version this one may be? Lawdog

Don Fischer · « **Reply #1 on:** December 18, 2005, 07:16:19 PM »

Not trying to be a smart ass but sounds like it was improved with an overload in a bad chamber. I say that because why would anyone throw away a fireformed case for an improved cartridge? I talked to a guy in Penn. that shoots a 6.5-06 Gibbs. Loads them so hot that the primers fall out of the cases after a couple firings. He does not let that small detail bother him, he just glues in new primers! :eek:

Reed1911 · « **Reply #2 on:** December 19, 2005, 06:35:51 AM »

Lawdog,

Not to question wisdom, but how did they determine the angle? The difference between 40 and 45 is pretty slight and I'd have to guess that it is not a 45. If it is, it could be a custom job, or an overload (but not likely)

Lawdog · « **Reply #3 on:** December 19, 2005, 09:59:46 AM »

Don Fischer,

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why would anyone throw away a fireformed case for an improved cartridge?

Because the necks were slightly split. There were only 6 cases we could find.

Reed1911,

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how did they determine the angle?

The 'smith's' measured and compared them to other improved .223 cases they had. The shoulder angle is 45 degrees. I just though someone might know what improved version these are. Lawdog

Reed1911 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 19, 2005, 10:11:27 AM »

I'll have to say a custom chamber then. I can find no records that we have showing one with that steep of a shoulder angle. I'm not sure why one would do so, other than it looks cool, but hey it's all up to the designer.

Lawdog · « **Reply #5 on:** December 19, 2005, 10:28:20 AM »

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I can find no records that we have showing one with that steep of a shoulder angle.

The gunsmith's nor I could find any information either. That's why I asked here. Thought someone here may know. Thanks for trying. Lawdog