Author Topic: New Auto-Ordnance Army 1911a1 45acp WW2 copy (Read 2060 times)

1911crazy · « **on:** January 02, 2006, 02:45:30 AM »

I test fired a new Auto-Ordnance Army WW2 copy 1911a1 45acp and it was flawless right out of the box it cycled perfectly for 250rds+ without a hickup, jam or stove pipe. The cost was $389 at my local dealer. Its an affordable, no frills 1911a1 its a dependable, reliable shooter right out of the box. :eek:

azmike · « **Reply #1 on:** January 02, 2006, 01:15:45 PM »

Thanks for the report. I'll be looking for a no frills 1911 within the next year,and I would be interested to hear how it performs over the long haul. Up to now, I had pretty much settled on a Springfield milspec parkerized, but I like to keep my options open.

1911crazy · « **Reply #2 on:** January 04, 2006, 10:15:06 AM »

I have one springer that has had cycling problems ever since it was brand new, heck its still new because it continues to stove pipe/jam.

Mikey · « **Reply #3 on:** January 04, 2006, 11:25:33 AM »

D_MAN - have you tried new magazines in that Springer, or any other mags for that matter?? Mikey.

1911crazy · « **Reply #4 on:** January 04, 2006, 09:29:23 PM »

I just ordered some lower recoil springs for to try. It was really bad with the 16# spring. It got a tad better with the 18# spring so i ordered a 17# spring to try. Then I'll try another mag next do you have a brand of mag to suggest? I have a a few no frills cheap mags but i'd rather put in a good mag.

Mikey · « **Reply #5 on:** January 05, 2006, 02:50:33 AM »

D_MAN: I have used the Chip McCormick 8 round mags since I got my Springer in 91, all without any failure at all. I would recommend you try those. With inexpensive magazines and other parts you get what you pay for. BTW - an 18 lb recoil spring should work just fine in the GI Model. Try some new magazines and she should functionwithout a hitch. HTH. Mikey.

1911crazy · « **Reply #6 on:** January 07, 2006, 02:55:41 AM »

Mikey; Its stove piping the empty round its trying to eject. Its not making it back far enough to pick up the next round when the stove
pipe happens. I think the 18# spring is too strong with the frame being tight because its still a new 1911a1. Its better than it was with the 16# spring. I'm going to try a 17# spring next. I never broke in the gun yet and maybe thats the problem. Maybe your right Mikey the mag could be the problem with the lesser # spring in it. Maybe i have two problems with it. There is a lot of people having problems with springers. If the Chinese and the people at Auto-Ordnance can make their guns shoot right out of the box why can't the springfield armory's do it too? I guess that springfield armory has more problems than just with their M1a's?

I figure the gun has to operate flawless for 250 to 300rds before i'd carry it and trust it with my life. Now my springer has to shoot flawless for 500rds before i'd trust it before i'd carry it because of the problems i'm having with it.

My rated under dog by many 1911a1 owners is the Auto_Ordnance 1911a1, the Auto-Ordnance Army WW2 copy 1911a1 I just hammered it. I put in the 18# spring and full length guide rod and let it rip. The $389 price tag makes a great buy. The three of us shot the snots out of it.

The best 1911a1 I have ever shot so far out of my new colts & springfields before i purchased the auto-ordnance is the Chinese norinco its the first flawless, dependable, reliable 1911a1. It rattles and is loose as a goose but it cycles flawlessly. The Norinco and the Auto-Ordnance pretty much shoot the same they both have the full length guide rod and 18# spring. I can't tell the difference between the two of them, they cycle and feel the same, "perfect".

Welcome to the world of auto's I guess nothing is perfect in the world anymore well some are and some aren't and just remember its not how much we pay for it either.

jimster · « **Reply #7 on:** January 07, 2006, 05:41:25 AM »

D man, after checking out the magazines, maybe the next thing to check is the extractor. Could be a simple matter of the extractor tension not being just right, or an adjustment of the extractor, or maybe you might try another extractor. The extractor is the heart of feeding and ejection.
It's not expensive to have them retensioned and adjusted, or install a new one from Ed Brown or Wilson, if you don't want to do this yourself it's still pretty cheap to have a smith do it for you.
Had the extractor retensioned and adjusted in my Springer Mil-spec, made a world of difference, and I just had an Ed Brown "hardcore" one put in just to make me feel better yet.
It's one thing at a time...after messing with mags, go with the extractor, you might not need go any farther than that for ejection...but if you do, next step might be the EJECTOR. If your ejector is just a tad too short, it won't kick out the spent round...also, if your using a buffer pad, it is possible your shorting yourself out on the length the slide moves back.

I'd say you cover all this, you should solve the problem of getting those empty cases out of that gun.

Good luck
Jimster

greenjeans · « **Reply #8 on:** January 07, 2006, 02:01:33 PM »

Both my SA GI spec. work flawlessly with Chip McCormick and surplus military mags. The military mags were new in the packaging and cheap.

1911crazy · « **Reply #9 on:** March 04, 2006, 06:42:52 AM »

I just picked up some cheap surplus military mags and i took out the 18# recoil spring to test it again, i left the 16# orginal recoil spring with the full length guide rod kit. I figure its too tight and still new yet its not broken in yet. If it doesn't work right after this go round I'm going to polish the frame rails next. It has a heavy parkerize job in black.

44 Man · « **Reply #10 on:** March 12, 2006, 01:48:37 AM »

Is this the last round in the magazine that's stovepiping? Or does it happen at random? If it's the last round, I would suspect the mag springs. I have used the Colt/Mc Cormick and Wilson mags for years with no problem in several 1911's. If I buy a gun and it comes with a magazine with no markings on it, I toss it. Cheap magazines are just that, cheap for a reason. It's just too much frustration messing with a bad mag. Get some quality mags and try it again. 44 Man

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #11 on:** March 12, 2006, 03:02:46 AM »

I do something a little different with them Before i even try them i swap out the spring and follower to wilsons. There only 5 bucks a set and it usually makes a good servicable mag out of junk.Got in the habbit of doing it for my alloy framed guns even with the chip mccormick mags because ive been told the steel follower can dammage them.

Quote from: 44 Man

Is this the last round in the magazine that's stovepiping? Or does it happen at random? If it's the last round, I would suspect the mag springs. I have used the Colt/Mc Cormick and Wilson mags for years with no problem in several 1911's. If I buy a gun and it comes with a magazine with no markings on it, I toss it. Cheap magazines are just that, cheap for a reason. It's just too much frustration messing with a bad mag. Get some quality mags and try it again. 44 Man

1911crazy · « **Reply #12 on:** March 12, 2006, 09:20:01 AM »

It would stove pipe the empty case at random all the time like once or twice per mag. The gun is still brand new because i haven't shot it that much. Its a real purdy black park 1911a1 with the better sights. I just got 5 G.I. mags to try next before i make more changes. I put in the 16# orginal recoil spring and i took out the 18# spring. I figured it may not be loose enough yet for the tighter spring. If it doesn't work the next thing is to polish the frame rails. I will get it to function properly its going to teach me as i go. I have another new springer in the box too its a G.I. 45 the ww2 copy. I been eyeing the 1911a1 double stack too. I'm not too sure yet though....... :roll: