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Offline Doc Lisenby

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Recoil Spring Guide Buffers; needed?
« on: January 08, 2006, 04:49:24 AM »
Is it a good idea to use recoil spring guide buffers?  Do they soften the end of the recoil cycle and/or prevent damage to any part?
Thanks for any comment.
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Offline Lloyd Smale

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Recoil Spring Guide Buffers; needed?
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2006, 07:38:55 AM »
If your gun is sprung properly for the load your using there a waste of time. Just something else that can go wrong and tie up a gun.
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Recoil Spring Guide Buffers; needed?
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2006, 08:19:38 AM »
Doc, If you're talking about the soft plactic buffers like the Wilson Shok-Buffs then I wouldn't bother. They limit the slide's rearward travel and often cause failure-to-eject problems. The Shok-Buffs protect exactly one part from battering; the spring guide. It is an inexpensive part to start out with and can easily be dressed with a file when it gets battered (thousands of rounds). The Shok-Buffs do cusion a slight bit but not enough to really matter.

There are other systems that do work well. They require replacement of the spring guide and installation of an inner buffer spring. Ruger uses a system like this in their new P-345 and it really works. The down side is it takes some muscle to pull the slide all the way back. Here's a photo of Ruger's recoil buffer:

The bottom flat coil spring is the buffer. The top section shows the recoil spring on top of the buffer spring.
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2006, 09:15:25 AM »
I suspected that they are unnessary gagets, but I wanted to ask some of you who shoot a lot of rounds.  Thanks a lot.  I appreciate your time.
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2006, 12:17:34 PM »
Doc:  Iowegan is absolutely correct!  They don't really soften the recoil or prevent any discernable damage.  I believe they are unnecessary and may cause the pistol to malfunction.  Some folks may swear by them but I have always felt that a slightly heavier recoil spring served the same purpose.   All my 1911s use Wolff heavy springs and I have put over 10k rounds of ball and pretty hot reloads through an old aluminum frame Colt Commander and she is just fine.  Mikey.

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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2006, 12:49:10 PM »
Thanks Mikey, seems like we have another way to save a coin or two by not buying them.
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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2006, 12:07:09 AM »
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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2006, 02:44:30 AM »
It's important to have the right recoil spring for the load you're firing. I use light 13 pound springs for light target loads. If I were to start shooting full power 230 grain loads in that gun, I'd start battering it.  If in doubt, get a new recoil spring. They're not very expensive and you'll know what you have.
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