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Offline stimpylu32

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« on: January 09, 2006, 05:02:04 AM »
Just some common sence

Bill of NON-Rights."

ARTICLE I: You do not have the right to a new car, big screen TV, or any other form of wealth. More power to you if you can legally acquire them, but no one is guaranteeing anything.

ARTICLE II: You do not have the right to never be offended. This country is based on freedom! , and that means freedom for everyone -- not just you! You may leave the room, turn the channel, express a different opinion, etc.; but the world is full of idiots, and probably always will be.

ARTICLE III: You do not have the right to be free from harm. If you stick a screwdriver in your eye, learn to be more careful, do not expect the tool manufacturer to make you and all your relatives independently wealthy.

ARTICLE IV: You do not have the right to free food and housing. Americans are the most charitable people to be found and will gladly help anyone in need, but we are quickly growing weary of subsidizing generation after generation of professional couch potatoes who achieve nothing more than the creation of another generation of professional couch potatoes.

ARTICLE V: You do not have the right to free health care. That would be nice, but from the looks of public housing, we're just not interested in public health care.

ARTICLE VI: You do not have the right to physically harm other people.

If you kidnap, rape, intentionally maim, or kill someone, don't be surprised if the rest of us want to see you fry in the electric chair.

ARTICLE VII: You do not have the right to the possessions of others.

If you rob, cheat, or coerce away the goods or services of other citizens, don't be surprised if the rest of us get together and lock you away in a place where you still won't have the right to a big screen color TV or a life of leisure.

ARTICLE VIII: You do not have the right to a job. All of us sure want you to have a job, and will gladly help you along in hard times, but we expect you to take a! dvantage of the opportunities of education and vocational training laid before you to make yourself useful.

ARTICLE IX: You do not have the right to happiness. Being an American means that you have the right to PURSUE happiness which, by the way, is a lot easier if you are unencumbered by an over abundance of idiotic laws created by those of you who were confused by the Bill of Rights.

ARTICLE X: This is an English speaking country. We don't care where you are from, English is our language. Learn it or go back to wherever you came from!

lastly....

ARTICLE XI: You do not have the right to change our country's history or heritage. This country was founded on the belief in one true God. And yet, you are given the freedom to believe in any religion, any faith, or no faith at all; with no fear of persecution. The phrase IN GOD WE TRUST is part of our heritage and history and if you are uncomfortable with it,

TOUGH!!!!

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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2006, 06:52:41 AM »
:wink: Agree............

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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2006, 07:11:47 AM »
STIMPYLU32. Good post Sir. However, I do wish that medical care was available to all. I'm still paying for bypass surgery from over 2 years ago. If I were a convicted bank robber, rapist, or other worthless pos and in jail, I would have the best care that money could buy. The lower class working stiff, like me, mostly does without. I believe the govt refers to us as the working poor. POWDERMAN.  :?  :?  :?  :?  :?  :?
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2006, 07:50:45 AM »
very 10-4 stimplyu32!especially the last 2.if it is that obvious to the average American, why cant Washington see it?

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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2006, 07:56:37 AM »
Powderman

Got to agree with you on the health care thing , My daughter that is 16 now had to have open heart surg, at 12 days old and you would not beleave what the ins. did not cover .

Got to the point that i was telling the bill collectors to just come repossess the kid . For some reason they never did , Imagine that . :roll:  :roll:

It would be nice to have health care at a decent price that would cover the bills but i just don't see it ever happening .
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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2006, 01:06:36 PM »
Believe me--you do not want it.  I have personal experience with it in two countries and quality of care goes way down when it is government run.  We do need to get the cost down I agree.  The reality of that happening--slim and none.  Lawyers will see to it.
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Re: universal health care
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2006, 04:19:21 PM »
Quote from: clodbuster
Believe me--you do not want it.  I have personal experience with it in two countries and quality of care goes way down when it is government run.  We do need to get the cost down I agree.  The reality of that happening--slim and none.  Lawyers will see to it.


From what I've read and heard from folks with first hand knowledge like Clodbuster, the old adage 'you get what you pay for' holds true in health care.  Socialized medicine is NOT the answer.
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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2006, 05:00:04 PM »
stimpylu32
Very good post & I couldn't agree more.

The very opposite of each point you make would be Hillary's platform! :cry:

Yes, I would like to see more affordable Health Care, but we know the gov. can't do it. If the lawsuits could drop off & thus the Insurance become
lower priced, this would be one step of many to help.
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2006, 03:32:48 AM »
Liberals (Dumbycrats) would take great issue with this bill of rights.
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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2006, 05:40:43 AM »
I disagree on a few things but I know that it would be a mess if it came true.

The way I feel is while I am paying +33% of my income in taxes and also paying taxes on any purchase I make I should have a few things from my government.  So here is my list.

1. I should have an opportunity for a job and the government should protect that right - GW refuses to close the borders and every person that comes in illegally is a job LOST for a citizen

2. I should have healthcare.  As mush taxes as I pay, you dang right!!!

3. The government should protect me (foreign and domestic).
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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2006, 04:51:14 PM »
It would make more sense to not have to pay as many taxes.
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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2006, 11:11:45 AM »
No or less taxes equals less or no public services. The secret is so simple. The government needs to budget itself the same way we have to. This includes getting out of useless wars such as Iraq. No end in sight, never will be. They have been fighting there for 2000 years. Why does anyone think they will stop anytime soon. But one thing is for sure - we don't have to be there fighting and dying with them. Get the idiot out of the White House, somewhere in Texas there is a circus that is missing there clown!!!!
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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2006, 04:36:50 PM »
Problem is if we don't take the fight to them they will bring it to us.  Do you realy want to fight a war on our own soil?  How many American lives would be lost then?  You don't realy believe that if we pulled out tomorrow that they would not be attacking us here at home by the end of the week do you?

I agree that war sucks, but if we are going to be involved in one I would rather it take place in someone elses back yard.
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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2006, 05:30:49 PM »
threejax
You say the "secret" is so simple & that the Gov. should budget itself the way we do. I agree with that.
But then you go on indicate that the war is the problem with the budget &
you give the public services a pass. So with your logic if we did not have
a War we would not need a budget. Better rethink that one.
Someone who has thought about this at all would have to conclude that
we could cut back just a bit on our Socialist programs along with taxes.
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« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2006, 06:44:59 AM »
I dunno, I think cutting back an already strained welfare/socialist system is a horrible idea.
How about better enforcing welfare corruption, and, and this is key, removing pork? I believe anyone caught with any sort of money corruption in our government systems ought to be treated the same as someone turning tail and fighting for an enemy government-it amounts to the same thing, but far more insidious, because you're not shooting at soldiers, you're stealing right from the mouths and coffers of the elderly, the children, the hardworking men and women of our country, and possibly more, fromthe trust Americans have in their government. What's with corruption convictions getting sentences in the number of MONTHS instead of years, if not decades? No good.
Everyone who's ever bought a jug of milk or a loaf of bread, everyone who's ever attended a State University, everyone who has ever used college financial aid, everyone who's ever used medicare, everyone who's ever worked on a farm that hasn't yet been swamped by huge agribusiness-
you've all benefited from socialism.
Does this mean I'm a straight socialist? Absolutely not.
But I think that..as with many things..in moderation, it can be a huge help.
I think the big problem is that our welfare system has become focused on treating symptoms, not problems-
witness the growing number of soup kitchens and emergency food programs. These, while great for short term fixes, do NOT break the cycle of poverty. Instead of actually figuring out WHY people who once had good paying jobs with great benefits and following the American Dream are now becoming more and more dependent on emergency food supply and entitlement programs, we just continue to rely on these stopgap measures.
Does this put people back to work?
Does this actually SOLVE the problem, or does this merely assuage our guilt that the rest of us feel whenever we hear that someone's hungry and starving, or doesn't have the medicine they need?
Perhaps instead of pandering to that guilt and merely treating the symptoms, something ought to be looked into as to the causes. Granted, there will always be a need for emergency entitlement programs-but they're just that, emergency only.
I'm beginning to believe that the real solution to welfare problems lies not in either eliminating them or by handing out free food-there's got to be something else going on there, I just cannot put my finger on it yet.
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« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2006, 10:56:00 AM »
nomosondero,
    I did not say we wouldn't still have budget problems if there was no war. But this war or any war costs us lots of money, not to forget the horrible toll in human loss and suffering. Sorry I don't agree with our prez, but thats just the way I see it.
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« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2006, 12:31:16 PM »
Reread your previous post. No need to argue with yourself.

I have no problem with you not liking the President, he won & he is in place, sorry. We both have things here we don't like. I don't like paying so much for all of the programs that are in place every paycheck, but for
now they are in place.
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« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2006, 01:53:49 PM »
Yeahhh...
Let's steer this out of the second grade and away from any sort of personal attacks, everyone. Kinda ridiculous.
Frankly, the president wouldn't be ABLE to be in Iraq right now if it weren't for congress having pretty much handed him a blank check. For every congressman I see complaining about the war, I have to ask, okay, did YOU vote to spend money on it? No money, no congressional authorization would equal, under the war powers act, no war.
Too many fingers in the pie there, I think. The question we have to ask ourselves now, I believe is...why aren't we just kicking ass, taking names and investing more in handing it over to the Iraqis?
I have one theory. I think we're afraid that they'll have democratic elections, but they won't go the way "we" want them to, like Lebanon's (Hezb'allah elected) and Palestine's (Hamas elected) went. Those were free, open elections, but obviously not to our administration's liking. So are we REALLY there for democracy, or only there to promote our own national interests? 'cause if we're there for our own interests, you'd think we could just admit it.
What we're missing is that people do not WANT democracy at the moment. They want working utilities, they want food, they want water, they want medicine. Wanna know why Al-Queda, Hamas, Hezb'allah and their ilk spread like wildfire? They're smart as hell, that's why. They KNOW that people have a heirarchy of needs, and basics, like food, water, shelter come first. Perhapos if we concentrated on methodically advancing and building things up things would be going better, instead of assuming that we would win outright and just marching across without truly getting the country ready to hand off? The insurgents aren't stupid. The stupid ones are all dead already.
Do I dislike that my tax dollars are being used for troops? No, as long as it GOES to the troops, but it isn't, is it? Our troops are having to weld on plates to HMMV's because our elected representatives can't find their butts with both hands, and spend their time debating "the sanctity of marriage", "drug wars" and whether or not some congressman should get (insert obscene amount of money) for (insert ridiculous, ludicrous pork barrel politics). Yeah, that's really an administration that cares about our troops. Especially when they're cutting benefits, extending tours, and having recruiters actively lie to kids at campuses to get to quotas. I know, we've been told at our campus' ROTC that if we agree to ANYTHING from a recruiter to GET IT IN WRITING, since they routinely promise things that, if not written and signed, mean jack. And it's not the recruiter's fault, it's someone giving orders, but....still, someone's obviously not having the interests of the individual troops in mind here. What gets me is when our tax money is misappropriated in scandals and pork barrel politics. That's what gets me. Big time.
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« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2006, 02:13:00 PM »
Ocsamschainsaw
Good post, Sir & good points. It looks like one of my boys is going to
sware in next week, & I have suggested to him to by all means get
everything in writing.
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« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2006, 05:08:20 PM »
threejax, I see you didn't last long at GBO. You've crossed a line of no return. Your membership is terminated as of Rat now. By now.


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« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2006, 05:55:43 PM »
nomosendero....I also have a son that just got swore in, he's headed for basic this spring/summer.

Just want to say...bless your boy, and yer family...and tell your boy thanks, it's much appreciated.

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« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2006, 05:30:52 AM »
Thank you Sir

I will remember your son in my prayers as well.
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« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2006, 06:17:10 AM »
ya no wot if you are a plumber or carpenter and do a job for a doctor and he is not happy he wont pay till it is done properly .but if he works on you and it is not succesful stiff.no com back and if you wont him to try again you have to pay again . is there  not supose to be equal rights for every one in our too (censored word). it always seems to be  the working class that  gets shafted.
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« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2006, 06:19:13 AM »
ya no wot if you are a plumber or carpenter and do a job for a doctor and he is not happy he wont pay till it is done properly .but if he works on you and it is not succesful or done properly stiff.no com back and if you wont him to try again you have to pay again . is there  not supose to be equal rights for every one in our too lands. it always seems to be  the working class that  gets shafted.
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« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2006, 04:54:28 PM »
One last article on the new Bill of Rights that everyone should agree on...

XII: Regulation of the credit card companies. To charge 24+% APR interest rate on payments is complete ludacracy! We know why they do it, and it certainly isn't to benefit us! You wonder why people are in credit card debt; and the movement to increase the minimum payment that happened a while ago (not sure if it went through or not) will not help a person in debt with that kind of interest rate. Need I say more?  :D
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