Whelen/Remington???

[ihuntbucks]

What's the difference in a 35 "WEhelen" and a 35 "Remington"??..Rick

[oso45-70]

What's the difference in a 35 "WEhelen" and a 35 "Remington"??..Rick

Ihuntbucks. There is quite bit of difference between the two rounds. The 35 Remington is slightly more than a 30-30 Winchester. The most comman loading would be a 158 or 200gr round nose bullet, Where as the 35 whelen is made on a 30-06 case and considered a big bore round for a lot of people, Great for Elk, moose, Bear and deer, In my opinion a great all around gun for any thing in north America. You can load any where from 250 gr to 300 gr no problem. ........Joe...........

[Graybeard]

About 700 fps with 200 grain bullets.  :eek:

[handirifle]

Top data line is the 35 Rem, bottom is the Whelen, factory loads.

Velocity (ft/sec)
Cartridge Type Bullet Muzzle 100 200 300 400 500
Remington® Express® 200 SP CL 2080 1698 1376 1140 1001 911
Remington® Express® 200 PSP 2675 2378 2100 1842 1606 1399

 
Energy (ft-lbs)
Cartridge Type Bullet Muzzle 100 200 300 400 500
Remington® Express® 200 SP CL 1921 1280 841 577 445 369
Remington® Express® 200 PSP 3177 2510 1958 1506 1145 869

[JEFF WARD2]

ive been trying to decide on my next levergun (my second one ) and ive pretty much made up my mind that it will be a 35, graybeard had suggested the whelen to me awhile back and now seeing the numbers i can see why... looks like i will be hunting for a whelen in the near futare..
thanks for more great info...jeff

[Don Fischer]

I'm not sure anyone makes a lever in 35 Whelen. I'm not even sure that anyone makes a lever in 30-06 anymore that could be re-barreled. But you might give the 358 Win a thought. 308 case necked up to 35 cal. Even if you can't find one, finding a 308 lever to re-barrel should be a breeze.

Afraid I'm not a lever fan so not sure whats out there. Might check on the Browning lever, think it's called the BLR, in 358 and it seems that Win made the Model 88 in 358. Wouldn't fall down dead to find that Savage also chambered the model 99 for it.

[JEFF WARD2]

OHH,thanks for the info.. i just ASSumed that the 35 whelen was made in lever action,
seems like every time i turn around i show my ignorance about guns.
ive been a bowhunter for over 30 years and untill recently didnt have much interest in guns,except my m/loader and encore...
but something inside made me fall in love with the levergun about 2 months ago and i bought one( 1895g 45-70) and now im searching for info on guns, thats how i stummbled on to this web site..
i have alot to learn as all can tell..so please forgive my ignorance..
and many thanks to all, that help me find the much needed info im searching for....thanks again for helping out...jeff

[Graybeard]

The Browning Lever Rifle would be an easy conversion and can be scoped. The Winchester Teddy Roosevelt made famous can be converted but not scoped so isn't as good an option. I believe that one is the model 95.

[JEFF WARD2]

thanks, graybeard i will do sime reserch on this, would it require a gunsmith or is this something i can do ?
if a smith needs to be involved which i would more likely think so..can anyone give me suggestions....thanks...jeff

[Don Fischer]

The Browning Lever Rifle would be an easy conversion and can be scoped. The Winchester Teddy Roosevelt made famous can be converted but not scoped so isn't as good an option. I believe that one is the model 95.

I just read an article on the 30-06 and it claimed that Roosvelt's rifle was a Win 1895. Don't know where you'd get one anymore that you'd want to re-barrel. Also a photo of Townsend Whelen and he's holding a Mod 99 Savage. Don't know that that was ever in 30-06 either. Probally a 303 Savage.

[Lone Star]

The Browning BLR:  http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?value=003B&cat_id=034&type_id=009

The Winchester M1895:
http://www.winchesterguns.com/prodinfo/catalog/detail.asp?cat_id=534&type_id=127&cat=014C

Both are currently in some level of production.

[Graybeard]

The 1895 has been reissued (made in Japan) and is still available NIB in .30-06, .270 Win. and .405 Win. which was Teddy's favorite.

If you have to ask then assume you can't do it. It's a gunsmithing project for sure. Will require a new barrel.

[rich5674]

Get that Whelen in a 7600, Its faster than a lever action, I like the clip feed, its easier to load and unload. No gunsmithing necessary, you will save $1000+ over the 1895+ rebarrel. In my Whelen (Remington 700 Classic) I used bullets 180 grain to 250. Very versitile

[CowboyEngr]

The Browning BLR, Win 88, and Savage 99 were all made in 358 Winchester at one time or another.  The Winchester and Savage are both pretty scarce in that chambering, so price will be accordingly.  The Browning BLR is a good rifle and one in 358 winchester can probably still be had for something reasonable.

The re-make Winchester or Browning 1895's were made in 30-06 &/or 270 Win., so a re-barrel to 35 Whelen is certainly possible, but it will require a talented gunsmith and a new barrel.  Therefore, that will turn into an expensive project, probably $1500 to $2000 by the time you're done.

If you are not tied to nostalgic old design models, I'd recommend trying to find an older Browning BLR in 358 Winchester.  It's not quite the powerhouse of the Whelen, but pretty close.  Another idea is to search for a Browning re-make of the Winchester mdl. 71 in 348 Winchester.  It's a dandy, and suitable for anything short of the big African stuff.  They can still be had for under $1000 and will surely continue to go up in value.

Oh, one other idea.  Winchester made a run of Winchester 94 Big Bores in 356 Winchester.  The Winchester 356 is a rimmed version of the 358 Winchester.  That may be the sleeper, as far as price is concerned.

[JD338]

Yup, the 35 Whelen is a great thumper for all of North America.
I have a M700 Classic and it has hammered many WT Deer and a 250 lb Black Bear.
The 225 gr Nosler PT leaves a quarter size exit wound.

JD338

[jimmyp50]

I am torn regards the Whelen as well, the new Remington Semiauto Woodsmaster 750 is released available in 35 Whelen, .308, 30-06 etc and I am very close to ordering one, but unless you reload the Whelen may not be your best choice.  I love the idea of a gun that can be used from white tail deer, bear, Elk, Moose but finding the cartridges in Walmart is another story!  If you commit to the Whelen I think you will have to commit to it being mostly a reloading proposition. I was hell bent to get the Whelen but right now I am thinking a .308 as well in the 18.5 inch version of the 750.  Not as versatile but more readily available.

[fatercat]

nosler makes 35 whelen. go to their web sight. i bought two boxes of 225 gn. partitons. they will group good. remington makes 200 gn. & 250 gn. what else could you want?

[Mac11700]

Conley has 10 different offerrings for the Whelen...no shortage here..

http://cpcartridge.com/cart/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1_72

Mac

[Daks]

Conley makes good ammo - I've used them before. They load right up to the max SAAMI specs for the 35W. Plenty-o-thump at the other end when it hits.

Presently, I get my ammo for the 35W from The Hunting Shack. Excellent product, good people to deal with. They put a 250 gr. Grand Slam bullet on for me that will hold well under an inch at 100 yards from my 7600.