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Offline woodsdweller

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browning bps uplander vs rem wingmaster
« on: January 18, 2006, 03:35:59 PM »
looking at both for a new rabbit gun. hunt with hounds. want 20 ga. i know there specs, just looking for some feed back. also looking at wingmaster in 28ga.
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2006, 04:32:37 PM »
I've got an 870 and 2 BPSs.  I'd absolutely pick the BPS any day.  There is not a tougher, more versitile, more durable pump made today than the BPS.  I don't own either in 28ga.

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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2006, 05:26:24 PM »
let's see here....

ANYTHING browning versus ANYTHING remington.

gee....


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seriously though, the 870 won't ever stop working and it will be cheaper. but its cheaper because it isnt as nice looking or as polished.

both are winning choices but i would go with the BPS in this instance. but don't listen to me. my favorite rifle i own is a model 700 remington and my favorite shotgun is my browning gold hunter.

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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2006, 05:39:27 AM »
sorry, i did not notice it was a wingmaster when you posted it.

let me re-phrase. the wingmaster is every bit as nice as the BPS. in this instance i would go try 'em both out because you cannot go wrong with either one.

for some reason i thought you meant the cheaper express version.

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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2006, 06:19:31 AM »
I guess I can elaborate a little if no one else is going to step in.  There are two reasons I prefer the BPS.  1) it's abidexterous.  The safety is on top, the ejection is out the bottom.  That means that anyone can shoot it.  It also means no throwing empty hulls across your hunting partners.  2) it can't be jammed.  The 870 has always had a problem with people who don't "push it til it clicks" when loading shells into the magazine.  when that happens that shell get stuck behind the loading gate in an abnoxious jam.  The bps can't do that.  Now 870 fans will jump up and down and say they've hunted with an 870 for 472 years and they've never done that.  Well i've done it.  It happens when you're hunting ducks in january and your fingers are frozen.  It happens in september when you're loading shells as fast as you can dove hunting.  I'd be scared to death it would happen in some type of self defense situation.

Both guns are impervious to mud, ice, water, etc which is important to me.  Both guns are quality pieces of equipment.  The BPS feels smoother but probably shoots a little slower and seems to have a longer pump stroke for equal sized chambers.  The bps can be disassembled completely and easily with no tools.

My first 870 (a 20ga I no longer own) would leak gas around the bolt and I would get powder and gas in my eyes.  That's why I sold that gun.  Since then I've had 2 that didn't do that although I've had 1 that sometimes had troubles with resetting the hammer.  

I've never had, seen, or heard of BPS malfunction.  They are easy to load, strip, shoot, and carry.  I honestly can't think of a reason to own a different shotgun currently in production.

My favorite gun is a Winchester and I have no allegiance to either company.

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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2006, 10:53:16 AM »
Both are good guns. The BPS is a pain to disassemble and clean.   The rods are very hard to get back in but you gotta love the bottom ejection.  You can clean an 870 in your sleep but Remington's quality control has gone out the window as of late.  I have to give the nod to the BPS.  You have a better chance to get a good gun with the Browning.

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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2006, 03:20:50 PM »
Since Iv'e shot a Wingmaster for 24 years I'd give a BPS a try. If I were buying the first time, I'd buy the one that felt the best and pointed the most effortlessly.
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« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2006, 04:20:35 PM »
I am not familiar with wingmaster but I do have a BPS in 28 guage and it is buy far my favorite pump gun great for rabbits  and even more so for grouse where I will be doing a lot more walking than shooting