Author Topic: How would you like a NEW 1876? (Read 1728 times)

Bitterroot Bob · « **on:** February 04, 2006, 01:58:42 PM »

Howdy,
I've been playing cowboy for going on nine years now. I bought my Uberti 1873 .44 WCF rifle about seven years ago and I just couldn't be happier. While main matches are always interesting, I love the long-range lever-action side-matches.
If I were King of the World, I would propose that Uberti build us a new Model 1876 rifle chambered in .45-60. GOEX and Black Hills could supply loaded black-powder and smokeless ammunition and brass could be had from Starline.
I wonder how many units Uberti would have to sell, and at what price, to justify the tooling? They already do so many things right with the '73- I know they would build a '76 to be proud of.
I've e-mailed them. No response, so far.

Just a thought,
Bitterroot Bob

jd45 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 05, 2006, 03:37:32 AM »

Bob, check Paco Kelly's Leverguns.com.........a German outfit is marketing one (possibly Italian made). I've seen posts about it there. Good luck, JD45

minker · « **Reply #2 on:** March 12, 2006, 12:02:08 PM »

i went to that site and read the article about the new made chapparral repeating arms 1876 winchester replica's . sounds like there well made and from the pics they look real nice to. didnt give any idea's on prices of them . i have several originals i shoot . the new ones are going to be chambered in the original 40/60, 45/60 and 45/75 calibers . i hope they bring them out soon . mark

RugerNo3 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 13, 2006, 01:05:07 PM »

There's also an article on the 1876 at Gunblast.com

Will52100 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 10, 2006, 11:06:41 AM »

Cimmerons got one, http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/New2006/1876Centennial.htm

Don't know if Uberti makes it or not, but I definatly want one, just not sure if I want a 45-75 or a 50-95. Posible uses would be bear hunting and of course white tail hunting. Loads would never be anything but black powder and cast bullets. Though for the bear I think I'd probably go with 20-1 500+ grain flat point. Heck would probably use that for deer also.

wlmccann · « **Reply #5 on:** April 12, 2006, 09:49:09 AM »

Will52100. Remember that while the new 1876 may be made of better steel, it is still a relatively weak action. Basically the toggle link action of the 1873. While I can't remember the bullet weight for the 50-95, the 45-75 used a bullet weighing only 300 to 350 grains. A 500 grain in either caliber is at the very least a good way to start stretching the locking components.

Will52100 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 20, 2006, 06:51:53 AM »

Thanks, that may be true, and if it can't stand heavy black powder loads I would probably pass on it. I will in any event wait and see how it works out, though even a 300 grain bullet loaded with black would be a stopper.

minker · « **Reply #7 on:** May 20, 2006, 04:08:02 PM »

you can't blow up a black powder gun shooting black powder in it . a new made 1876 would have stronger metal but still its a black powder gun . the toggle link action wasn't very strong . still some real stout loads can be shot out of these guns , with black powder only. the standard bullet for a 45/60 was a 300gr., 45/75 was a 350 gr., 40/60 was a 210 gr. and the 50/95 used a 300gr. the cimmaron 1876's are listed as starting around $1350.00 . 28" or 22" barrels . 45/60. 45/75 and 50/95 . price isn't that bad considering what originals are fetching these days .

mark

Ken41 · « **Reply #8 on:** June 03, 2006, 05:37:35 AM »

Here is a link to the testing that Winchester did on the toggle link 76 action. Pretty amazing.

Ken

http://www.bar-w.com/1876v04.html

86er · « **Reply #9 on:** June 04, 2006, 02:09:34 PM »

Years ago, I owned an original 1876 in .45-60. The round barrel had been cut down to 22", it had no finish, but was mechanically excellent and had a fine bore.
My favorite load was 40 grains of 4198 and a 300 grain cast plain base FP. I had no problems whatsoever with that gun, and would probably still have it if a feller hadn't offered to trade me straight across for an 1886.

Despite being a toggle link type action the '76 is a heck of a stout gun. When I get around to buying a repro, I'll use the same load without apprehension.

Will52100 · « **Reply #10 on:** June 04, 2006, 05:34:19 PM »

What would be the largest bullet you could use in 45-75? 350 grains? I under stand that it's basicly eqivelent to a 45-70, couldn't you use a 400+ grain bullet or would that eat up to much powder room? I'd be using black powder.

86er · « **Reply #11 on:** June 04, 2006, 07:45:16 PM »

The .45-75 WCF was designed by Winchester to give the approximate power level of some .45-70 loads, although with use of a 350 gr bullet. It wasn't until the 1886 was introduced that Winchester could offer a rifle that could handle the length of the .45-2.1" case.

86er · « **Reply #12 on:** June 06, 2006, 03:01:50 PM »

I had better correct my earlier post about my '76. I used 30 grains of IMR 4198, NOT 40 grains like I said. 40 grs is for the .33 WCF. That load would test the '76, mightily. Mea Culpa. :oops:

Mikey · « **Reply #13 on:** June 15, 2006, 02:09:37 AM »

Didn't I just see Cimarron Arms advertizing new 76s in 45-60??? Mikey.