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« Reply #30 on: February 15, 2006, 04:52:01 AM »
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The problem isn't so much the people....... but the religion..............

Religion of 'peace & tolerance'.......... sure it is.............NOT!

It's Satan's religion........... PURE EVIL!


 :roll:   Dude, lighten up...  Remember back a decade or so when "good Christians" were blowing up abortion clinics and murdering doctors?   :shock:

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« Reply #31 on: February 15, 2006, 09:13:21 AM »
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The problem isn't so much the people....... but the religion..............

Religion of 'peace & tolerance'.......... sure it is.............NOT!

It's Satan's religion........... PURE EVIL!


 :roll:   Dude, lighten up...  Remember back a decade or so when "good Christians" were blowing up abortion clinics and murdering doctors?   :shock:

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« Reply #32 on: February 15, 2006, 10:58:16 AM »
So lets nuke em. :grin:
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« Reply #33 on: February 15, 2006, 12:37:06 PM »
How about we all read up on extremism in any way shape or form first?
You do realize that every time anyone with any sort of press coverage, such as that idiot Pat Robertson starts railing on Islam as a whole for the actions of a few..
That they just aided in the recruitment of that many more young folks to the anti-american cause?
Why should we do things that just make them say, "see? this is why we do this. If we let them get away with this, why, they'll be after us! Look, they advocate nuking us!"
And people want to know why radical movements spawn so quickly, regardless of creed? It's because people already have zip hope in life, and when they have someone they can hate..well, that just makes it easier on life, doesn't it?
Here's an idea. Why not lead by an example and show them just how much we are a tolerant nation, exacting justice only on those who commit crimes, and not those who *might*. Recall that the majority of the people doing these violent protests are being led on-I believe the white house and intelligence sectors have actually recently confirmed this.
By your logic, every single gun owner on this board ought to be locked up because they have the potential to kill someone, and everyone who's advocated violence against islam ought to be locked up as well, since they not only have the means but a motive.
Do you see where I'm going with this? The logic is simply absurd. It's the same bunk the anti-gunners have been using against US for decades now.
I've read the Koran.
It can be interpreted very violently, for sure.
But so can the bible-do you not think that the radical muslims are using the exact same arguments that those who would hate islam as a whole so are using? Think about that. What exactly are you trying to propogate here?
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« Reply #34 on: February 15, 2006, 01:26:04 PM »
I dunno who's logic your referring to but its not mine as I pretty much agree with you. My post was basically tounge in cheek but if these guys are right & they all want us dead that would be my response. I sure dont blame all Muslims & if you've read much of what I post that oughtta be clear enuff. I would be happy if we packed up in Iraq tonight & brought the men home or just move over to Iran, Syria or Saudi Arabia, Pakistan too, anywhere where terrorists hang their hats.
I also thing we make new lunitic Muslims every day we occupy Iraq. In my mind we dont owe them a rebuilding or a reorganizing. We owed Saddam a whooping & now we oughtta shoot him & call Iraq done. The terrorists will follow us to Syria & Iran.
What makes it hard to not think its an all encompassing Islamic hatred of everything nonmuslim is the lack of outcry from the peaceful majority of Muslims, if there is a peacefull majority at all. Kinda leads one to believe that the only truly peaceful muslim is one who doesnt practice his faith but is Islamic by birth.
As I said I cant hate an entire faith or nationality. I believe in letting folks  show me what theyre made of. I think the mideast for the most part has.
Theyre so peaceful they sensationalize noncombatants getting beheaded, & those are the good guys, our friends the Saudis.  :roll:
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« Reply #35 on: February 15, 2006, 01:28:25 PM »
Heheh, wan't referring to your nuke post. Got the joke there :D
I was referring to the Senator some time ago who threatened dropping a nuke on Mecca should another 9-11 happen again...
That guy..I forget his name, but...yeah...I certainly don't like being represented as a U.S. citizen by such a man.
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« Reply #36 on: February 15, 2006, 01:30:27 PM »
Well, at the same time...
Is our media any better by NOT showing the beheadings, the combat casualties?
Doesn't not showing those gloss over the "war on terror"?
Sure, we don't need to sensationalize them. But why turn ourselves off to it?
If we're all so gung ho about war, how can we with a clean conscience only see those parts that we wish to?
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« Reply #37 on: February 15, 2006, 01:41:31 PM »
I tend to agree, if we got to see people parts strewn on the streets we're supposedly making safe folks might not think that prisoner abuse that was such big news was such a bad thing. I cant say building a naked terrorist pyramid is the worst I might do if I saw my buddies blown up.
War isn't pretty. Killing never is. I think most Americans watch this stuff on the news like its a sitcom or reality show. These are real people killing other real people & thinking that folks in that situation can treat the enemy in a nuetral way is absurd. They chop off heads & its ok, we build a nudie pile & the whole world gasps. Buncha wimps thats what that made us look like. IMHO of course.  :grin:
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« Reply #38 on: February 15, 2006, 02:01:44 PM »
http://www.graybeardoutdoors.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=85330&highlight=

I have never advocated any violence to Muslims.  But I am tired of folks equating Islam and Christianity.  The Koran spells out violence to others in PAST, PRESENT, and FUTURE tense..... the Bible's (except in Revelations) reference to violence is PAST tense....... A BIG DIFFERENCE!  Violence and War are marching orders in Islam.  If you read the posts in the above link you'll pretty much know how I feel about Islam.

Will we have to use violence in Iran and maybe Pakistan?  Well as it is going I doubt we'll have a choice with Iran.  But letting the terrorists get their hands on Nukes would be a very bad idea.  At any rate I don't see or advocate the use of Nukes........ a few Daisey Cutters ought to do the trick..... :eek:   that and bunker busters (which maybe Nuclear but they explode underground)....

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« Reply #39 on: February 15, 2006, 02:49:44 PM »
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Here's an idea. Why not lead by an example and show them just how much we are a tolerant nation,


Where have you been for that past 20+ years?? Tolerant, we have been more than tolerant. I watched my buddies come back to the states in body bags 23 years ago from a friggin "peace keeping mission" after we got the crap blown out of us we packed up and came home. We didn't want to offend anyone. If we just go home they will leave us alone. Just where has that gotten us? We didn't do what needed to be done, and that is why we are fighting a war today, matter of fact we didnt do a thing about any of the terror acts until it finally hit home. We have proven that cowering in the corner doesnt work. Tolerance is a two way street. Live and let live. But I only see one side that has any tolerance. There is a difference between tolerance and ignorance. Tolerance is letting something slide that is really no big deal like a cartoon picture. Ignorance is letting your fellow countrymen and women get killed for no reason at all. Allowing it to continue unchecked will only result in further inocent deaths. It is kinda like getting beat up on the school play ground. It will keep happening until you finally get the nerve to fight back.

I don't "hate" anyone or any group of people. But a criminal is a criminal and they need to be delt with. And I have no tolerance for criminals that make inocent people their targets. I guess I'm kinda of an extremist. I don't beileve a guy should walk with a 4th offence DWI. I don't believe a guy should only get 2 years in jail for murdering another person. I don't hate them, but I would pipe sunshine to them till the day they die in prison.  Just as I would have no problem unleashing a chain gun on group hoping around the street clapping and chanting over the bodies of burned mutalated Americans.

Any person or group should have the right to express themselves, draw cartoons, protest, make fun of who ever it is you want to make fun of. That I'm tolerant of. But my tolerance ends when inocent people get killed or hurt. Hatered is a cancer that will eat you alive, for which I don't have the time. Hatered is what you see in the eyes of the people looking back at you on the 5pm news from far away lands. They will deal with us one way or another, and tolerance has no place there.

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« Reply #40 on: February 15, 2006, 03:54:26 PM »
http://www.danielpipes.org/article/3370

Read this and see that if we had been paying attention we should have seen this coming along time ago...............


Actually, we should have seen this coming since around 600 ad...........

This article relates indirectly to the topic of the Cartoons, however it is about Ad's being run by CAIR........
http://www.islamreview.com/articles/cairsjesus.shtml

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« Reply #41 on: February 15, 2006, 04:59:57 PM »
BM. Good post Sir.
LEVERDUDE. The torture thing was really blown out of proportrion. If I had a choice of being in a nudie pyramid, or standing naked on a bucket with pink panties on my head, or being held down while some Godless scum hacks away at my neck with a dull knife, the choice would be obvious. I believe we've been more than tolerant with these scum. POWDERMAN.  :D  :D
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What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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« Reply #42 on: February 16, 2006, 12:14:44 PM »
:cry: People of all faiiths do strange things in the name of religon.  Through out history, this has ben the cause of most battles.

I have a problem with the rag heads and their position on the cartoons, they laughed at the sight of the World Trade Center going down, if that was funny, then why not the cartoons?

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« Reply #43 on: February 16, 2006, 02:56:16 PM »
ROCKBILLY. Good point. I remember them dancing in the streets upon hearing of the deaths of 3,000 innocent Americans. They were absolutely overjoyed to hear of those American deaths by their Godless brothers. There seems to be several here that have forgotten that dreadful day, but I haven't. I can still see the flames as the second plane hits. I see the fires and the smoke, I see innocent human beings leaping to their deaths, almost hear their screams of agony as they jump, or are burned alive. I can still see the towers tumbling down, can only imagine the screams of terror. I can still see the workers walking around putting body parts in those buckets. I can only imagine the stench of the decomposing, or burning bodies in the aftermath. Those brave men and women who were recovering bodies and body parts are some great people, I don't know if I could do that job, probably could, just wouldn't to.
Yes, I laughed at those cartoons, and at the raghead jokes. I make no apology for that. If that bothers some of you, TOUGH. POWDERMAN.  :x  :x  :x  :x  :x  :x
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
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« Reply #44 on: February 17, 2006, 09:29:26 AM »
:roll: Makes you wonder whats going on in this world when you see or read about some of the things people do in the name of religion.  Either their faith is not very strong, or they are totally eat up and mis-interpeting the teachings  JMHO.

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« Reply #45 on: February 17, 2006, 12:58:15 PM »
A Million Dollar Bounty on the Heads of the Cartoonist........... Religion of Peace and Tolerance......... sure thing...........

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060217/D8FR1U206.html

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« Reply #46 on: February 17, 2006, 02:57:05 PM »
Maybe its a good thing. Draw them into the open. From what I just read we know the names of several radical islamic whacko's in Pakistan. Think we'll go get them? Putting a price on someones head is not real friendly like.
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« Reply #47 on: February 17, 2006, 10:32:26 PM »
I keep hearing(by the pro muslim faction here) that all the violence is being purpetrated by a "small minority of radical muslims". I would like to see some proof of this, I believe that the majority of muslims,given the opportunity, would love nothing more than to kill as many non muslims as possible, and if a few muslims get in the way and die as well, no big deal...
Where is my proof you ask? It is in the proverbial pudding. All you need to do is watch tv, read a paper or listen to a radio and everyday without fail you will get the proof of more muslims killing someone (usually large numbers of people if possible) and usually themselves as well.
More proof?  Where is the "peace loving majority of muslims" while this is going on? oh you may get an obscure cleric or 2 being reported as speaking out against the violence, but that is nothing compared to the millions and millions who say and do nothing.
Why would all these "peaceful muslims" do nothing to condemn the voilence? Only one reason, because they support it thats why.
The violence may be happening outside of the states for now, but mark my words and listen up - the enemy is within our borders, just waiting for a chance to strike.

And for all the left wingers and muslim sympathizers, when the **it hit's the fan we will send you people out first to negotiate, make friends and hug thier necks(while they slit yours).. :wink:
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« Reply #48 on: February 18, 2006, 02:38:52 AM »
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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48868


The Pakistani terrorist group Jamaat ul Fuqra is using Islamic schools in the United States as training facilities, confirms a joint investigative report by an intelligence think tank and an independent reporter.

A covert visit to an encampment in the Catskill Mountains near Hancock, N.Y., called "Islamberg" found neighboring residents deeply concerned about military-style training taking place there but frustrated by the lack of attention from federal authorities, said the report by the Northeast Intelligence Network, which worked with an Internet blogger, "CP," to publish an interim report.
 


I posted this link in another thread yesterday.  It is very scary stuff!!!  However I don't think the majority of Muslims actually want to do us harm, heck I don't think the majority of Muslims want to be Muslims at all!!!  They are much more terrified of the 'true' muslims than we are!!  and for good reason..... the first folks that would be attacked and killed or converted to 'true' Islam would be the so called moderate Muslims (which the 'true' muslims don't consider to be muslims..... yes I do know about all the different sects!)

At some point we will have to grow a spine and confront these folks.... I just hope we do it VERY SOON!!

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« Reply #49 on: February 18, 2006, 03:33:39 AM »
DIRTY HARRY. Yep, agreed Sir. POWDERMAN.  :D  :D
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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« Reply #50 on: February 18, 2006, 05:10:29 AM »
Wmroy,

Thats interesting & disturbing as well.  With all thr rhetoric about getting them before they get here I cant understand why these places are allowed to exist.
Kinda makes me wonder what our adjenda really is in regards to Islamic terrorism. While I cant hate an entire religion I would be real happy to hear that these places were taken out of the picture. American militias seem to be taken out quickly enough if theyre viewed as being noncompliant.
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« Reply #51 on: February 18, 2006, 05:19:21 AM »
I do not support or simathize with the Muzlims in any way shape or form and beleive that they are an extreamily dangerouse 'religious' group that needs to be closely monitored by the world leaders and dealt with as needed for our own safety. However, I do not see how posting incinderary jokes or hate filled comments about them is going to help the situation or promote a family atmospher on this web site is all.
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« Reply #52 on: February 19, 2006, 02:57:46 PM »
I believe the cartoons have had the effect of showing the world what islam is all about. The violence and hatred are now seen by all nations. Kind of ironic in a way. I'll kill you and show you how peaceful I am. I'm sorry to see folkd die, but am glad they have shown their true colors. POWDERMAN.  :(  :(  :(  :(  :(  :(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

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« Reply #53 on: February 20, 2006, 11:08:06 AM »
Hey Dakota...A little correction here...generally, the folks that blew up abortuaries are not considered "good Christians"..I believe most of us view those incidents as one murderer going after another...and murder is still murder, even if some court says it isn't..!
   Curiously; Old Slick Willy came out saying that the editors of those papers and the cartoonists should be prosecuted...So much for presidential belief in the first amendment I guess..
   He claims that it is not very decent to ridicule anyone's religious beliefs:
   
  Is this the same Bill Clinton that was president when our tax money was  (through the NEA) paying for "artists" to make pictures of Mary covered with elephant dung ?
   
    Is it  The same Bill Clinton that was in office when the NEA paid a wad of our tax money to some other "artist" to set up a display of a crucifix inverted in a tank of urine ?

     Yes, he's so "sensative" over people's religious beliefs...is that why Mt Carmel at Waco was burned to the ground....with almost a hundred people including babies ?

          " Liberal logic"..or what ...Just wondering...
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« Reply #54 on: February 20, 2006, 11:10:47 AM »
Hey Dakota...A little correction here...generally, the folks that blew up abortuaries are not considered "good Christians"..I believe most of us view those incidents as one murderer going after another...and murder is still murder, even if some court says it isn't..!
   Curiously; Old Slick Willy came out saying that the editors of those papers and the cartoonists should be prosecuted...So much for presidential belief in the first amendment I guess..
   He claims that it is not very decent to ridicule anyone's religious beliefs:
   
  Is this the same Bill Clinton that was president when our tax money was  (through the NEA) paying for "artists" to make pictures of Mary covered with elephant dung ?
   
    Is it  The same Bill Clinton that was in office when the NEA paid a wad of our tax money to some other "artist" to set up a display of a crucifix inverted in a tank of urine ?

     Yes, he's so "sensative" over people's religious beliefs...is that why Mt Carmel at Waco was burned to the ground....with almost a hundred people including babies ?

          " Liberal logic"..or what ...Just wondering...
 
   It sure looks like unbelievers should be thankful that they have thoughtful, patient and forgiving Christians to deal with...rather than mobs that can be directed to riot at some "Grand Exalted Poobah's" will...
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« Reply #55 on: February 20, 2006, 11:13:54 AM »
Hey Dakota...A little correction here...generally, the folks that blew up abortuaries are not considered "good Christians"..I believe most of us view those incidents as one murderer going after another...and murder is still murder, even if some court says it isn't..!
   Curiously; Old Slick Willy came out saying that the editors of those papers and the cartoonists should be prosecuted...So much for presidential belief in the first amendment I guess..
   He claims that it is not very decent to ridicule anyone's religious beliefs:
   
  Is this the same Bill Clinton that was president when our tax money was  (through the NEA) paying for "artists" to make pictures of Mary covered with elephant dung ?
   
    Is it  The same Bill Clinton that was in office when the NEA paid a wad of our tax money to some other "artist" to set up a display of a crucifix inverted in a tank of urine ?

     Yes, he's so "sensative" over people's religious beliefs...is that why Mt Carmel at Waco was burned to the ground....with almost a hundred people including babies ?

          " Liberal logic"..or what ...Just wondering...
 
   It sure looks like unbelievers should be thankful that they have thoughtful, patient and forgiving Christians to deal with...rather than mobs that can be directed to riot at some "Grand Exalted Poobah's" whim...
If you don't want the truth, don't ask me.  If you want something sugar coated...go eat a donut !  (anon)

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« Reply #56 on: February 20, 2006, 05:55:53 PM »
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48912


I don't see Christians burning down buildings and beating folks to death over this one................ and it is much more offensive to Christians than those goofy Muslim Cartoons ever could have been!!  At least those were true..........

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« Reply #57 on: February 21, 2006, 05:19:17 AM »
Sorry about the multiple postings etc., I'm having a very difficult time doing anything  on this site..don't know why..
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« Reply #58 on: February 21, 2006, 04:49:47 PM »
IRONGLOW. Agreed Sir. BTW, I have trouble too. POWDERMAN.  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D
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« Reply #59 on: February 21, 2006, 07:14:36 PM »
I think/hope troubles are behind us. Matt did an upgrade today we've been wanting to do for awhile. It seems for now at least to have fixed the slowness.


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