Ok 9mm Largo?? collecting C&R pistols??

[1911crazy]

What can you do with a Star "Super B" Pistol?  Some say you can shoot 9mm luger out of it and some don't?  Can i shoot the winchester 9mm(9x23) out of it?

Lets get this forum going here lets talk about C&R pistols and revolvers. Lets take them apart and discuss them good points and bad points ye or ney?(good or bad) buy or stay away thats the question.

[Mikey]

Don't shoot the 9x23 Winchester out of that Star Modelo B - it will blow it apart.  The case is the same length, 9x23mm.  The correct ammo for that pistol is the 9mm Largo cartridge, available from CCI and others.  You can use 9x23 brass to reload and I would not make the loads any hotter than factory 38 Super.  Also, you would want a new spring kit and can get them from Wolff.  

You can also go for a 9mm Luger barrel and then shoot any 9mm surplus you can through it.  

The Modelo B is a full size pistol and the ones I have handled shoot just fine.  Please remember that all those european military pistols were designed to run on ball ammo and may not like hps or soft noses at all.  HTH.  Mikey.

[1911crazy]

Mikey; The Star Super B in 9mm largo looks more like a bigger Star model BM than my Star model B in 9mm para?  The Star pistols seem kind of rugged too. I know there are many who don't like them but there copies of the 1911's.   Plus there affordable quality shooters too.

[brownie_bellows]

If you have a Star Super with no B on the bottom of the grip frame it is a Super A in 9mm Largo. If it has a B it is a Super B and would be 9mm Parabellum. B models and Super B models should take only 9mm Parabellum, and Super A models only 9mm largo or, if it says 9mm/38, you can fire 38 ACP in the Largo chamber.

Check out this link:
http://www.9mmlargo.com/cgi-bin/discus/discus.cgi

[1911crazy]

If you have a Star Super with no B on the bottom of the grip frame it is a Super A in 9mm Largo. If it has a B it is a Super B and would be 9mm Parabellum. B models and Super B models should take only 9mm Parabellum, and Super A models only 9mm largo or, if it says 9mm/38, you can fire 38 ACP in the Largo chamber.

Check out this link:
http://www.9mmlargo.com/cgi-bin/discus/discus.cgi

I thought something was wrong it says SUPER on the bottom and i can't find a super B in 9mm largo anywhere?  The guy told me its a super B. I'll have to checkout the orginal box too.  I was looking for new grips and everything else says 9mm?

[brownie_bellows]

DMan...You have a Super A then and, unless someone has swapped the 9mm Largo barrel for a luger barrel,it should only be lodaded with 9mm Largo or 38 ACP (if it says 9mm/38 on on it) I'm pretty sure all the other parts are interchangeable. I have 4 Supers in 9mm Largo and reload starline brass for it. I like them a lot.

Take a look at this site:

http://www.9mmlargo.com/

[1911crazy]

I just opened up the safe and took out the Star 9mm largo its in the orginal box and has the orginal paperwork too. On the right side of the slide its marked;  "MODELO  SUPER",  on the box it says; STAR MODEL SUPER.  On the bottom of the receiver near the magwell it says "SUPER" again there's no "A" or "B" anywhere.  I looked at the numrich gun parts site and they do have a "STAR SUPER MODEL". On the barrel it says 9mm largo and on the box it says 9mm largo too. It has a barrel bushing/recoil spring setup similair to the Star BM and it has a lever on the right side that releases the slide assembly to take it apart from the frame. It was sold to me as a "Model SUPER B".  The Star Model B in 9mm luger seems to have the barrel bushing/recoil spring setup the same as a colt 1911.  I don't know too much about Star pistols they all seem to be a little different and there are so many different models. I'll checkout the star site for info too thanks. I don't see too many star pistols they seem to pop up every now and then.

[Reed1911]

We have a fairly large selection of 9x23 Largo ammunition available, and the only HP loads that I know of that are currentally loaded. CCI stopped loading them some time ago, and ours are on brass cases.

[1911crazy]

We have a fairly large selection of 9x23 Largo ammunition available, and the only HP loads that I know of that are currentally loaded. CCI stopped loading them some time ago, and ours are on brass cases.

Thanks i haven't purchased any 9mm largo ammo yet and i will visit your site and get some soon. Thanks again.

[1911crazy]

I found this info on star pistols and info about 9mm largo go to;

www.star-firearms.com/firearms/caliber.shtml

www.9mmlargo.com/index.htm

(the star super pic on the bottom left side is the one i have)

[dangerranger]

Ive been away for a while and just saw this post. I have a Star Super in 9mm Largo. the Info sheet I got with it says that the original mil chamber was sized to allow the use of other 9mm rounds in an emergancy only. this was so that on the battle field they could use any 9mm rounds they could find. altho it will work, I would not do it. The pistol can safely fire the millitary rounds that you can find, but to do it they will be headspaced with the extractor being the only thing holding the round in place. it wont be very long before your extractor fails. as far as shooting 9x23 Win or 38 supper, these fire at a much higher pressure. I tryed shooting my supper with the spring kit with 38 supper, and it realy battered the slide back and bulged the cases. [ to much pressure.] I then changed the barrel to an after market chambered for 9mm P. After a little fitting it works fine and is very accurite. I did this back when largo was difficult to find , today I might have left it alone. DR.

[ibfestus]

The "B" on my 9MM Star Modello Super serial # 0194XX is located on the left side of the slide.  There is the word STAR followed by (1/2 size) "B ECCHEVERRIA" over "EIBAR-ESPANA" followed by (large letters) "SA CAL. 9 M.M."

This is indeed the Star B "MODELO SUPER" in 9mm Largo.  It will most times fire 9mm Luger because the extractor holds the shorter round enough for the firing pin to fire the primer.  I feel this is hazardous and quite unnecessary.  There is a lot of Largo ammo and boxer brass is available.

A competant gunsmith can slightly alter the extractor and the old guns will function flawlessly with .38 Super brass loaded to .38 ACP specs.  

FWIW there is a guy on GA selling these fine old pistols for the grand sum of $154 including shipping to a C&R.  I just ordered another one yesterday! :-D

[brownie_bellows]

Sorry to differ, IBfestus,  but the B you found next to the Echeverria name is just part of the name (stands for Bonifacio)...NOT the model number. All my 9mm Largo Supers have the B on the slide you describe. As per numerous posts on several boards, including this one, The Super B model 9mm parabellum will have a "B" on the gun butt whereas the Super A is marked only with "Super".

[1911crazy]

Sorry to differ, IBfestus,  but the B you found next to the Echeverria name is just part of the name (stands for Bonifacio)...NOT the model number. All my 9mm Largo Supers have the B on the slide you describe. As per numerous posts on several boards, including this one, The Super B model 9mm parabellum will have a "B" on the gun butt whereas the Super A is marked only with "Super".

They all seem to be marked the sameway wether its a "B",  a "SUPER" or "BM" right near the mag well opening. Now the difference between a SUPER B and a Model B is the lever on the right side for releasing the slide those are the supers.  The Model B has no lever on the right side its the same as the 40's colt its copied from.