Author Topic: Question about recoil. (Read 587 times)

Bamasnyper · « **on:** February 07, 2006, 10:41:26 AM »

How does the recoil of the following calibers compare with one another:
.35 Rem., .444 Mar., .450 Mar. and 45-70 Gov. Also, how do they compare to a .300 Win. Mag. and a 12 Gauge 3 in. mag. turkey load since these are the heaviest kickers I own. I am considering buying me a "brush" gun for whitetails but don't won't something that will beat me to death.

c01 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 07, 2006, 01:13:52 PM »

I use the 444 for whitetails and it works great. The 444 kicks signifcantly less then the 300 mag(IMHO). As to the 45/70 it depends on the load. I have not shot a 450.
By the way,for whitetails,the 444 puts them down very quickly.

HAPPY SHOOTING

GLC · « **Reply #2 on:** February 07, 2006, 02:22:55 PM »

I have three 35's and two 45/70's. I equate the 450 to a full powered 45/70 load.

The 35 is real nice to shoot. Slightly more thump than a 30/30 and way below your 300 and 12 gauge.

Never shot a 444 so don't really know.

45/70 300 and 405 grain standard loads are real easy, I'd say about like shooting a 12 gauge 2 3/4 field load. Hot 45/70's and 450s can really thump you, in my opinion, getting close or equal to the 12 gauge turkey loads you are familiar with. A good shooting rest, recoil pad, or PAST recoil shield helps alot.

Shooting deer in the brush at 100 yards or less, I'd pick the 35. Recoil is pleasant and the 200 grain slug is more than adequate for deer and even black bear. Ammo is plentiful and more or less all loaded about the same, 200 grain bullet at about 2000 fps.

45/70 is great too, better if you reload. You can load up to your recoil tolerance. Light loads are pleasant and full power loads will take anything in North America.

My two cents.

Good shooting.

victorcharlie · « **Reply #3 on:** February 08, 2006, 01:49:16 AM »

I have no experience with the 444 or .450 but I do have a .35 Remington and a 45.70.

I really like the .35 for deer in the thick stuff. With hunting cloths on I feel very little recoil, and my Marlin 336 is a little lighter and just feels better to carry than the 1895 in 45.70.

That said, I'm not ready to sell the 45.70 and it's also a great old round that has versatility unmatched by most calibers. The standard 405 grain Remington loads are not to bad, but considerably more than the .35.

The cowboy loads are mild and some people use them for deer.

For deer hunting, in my opinion, the 300 grain remington load at 1800 is hard to beat, but it does up the recoil.

When you get into the PMC 350 grain HA or +p+ or the garretts and beartooth loads recoil can be severe.

I haven't hand loaded the 45.70 yet, but with hand loads a fellow could get about anywhere he wanted to be with the 45.70

There has been much debate on using the marlin 1895 in 45.70 for dangerous game such as Grizzle Bear in Alaska, but I would consider the 45.70 with the right loads at close range plenty for anything in North America.

In a hunting situation your unlikey to notice the recoil. If your going to run a box or 2 through the 45.70 at the range then you will notice the recoil if your shooting more than cowboy loads. I put a limbsaver recoil pad on my 1895 and to me, this made a huge difference in felt recoil.