Remington 700 Tactical - Police Model in 223???

[jakes10mm]

First, I have "223-on-the-brain". Wanting it for varminting, I had just about talked myself into a Savage heavy barrel 223, when I saw a used 223 Remington 700 Tactical at my local shop. The rifle is scoped, but it might as well be a used rifle with scope mount and rings. The previous owner sold it to the shop with a Simmons 8-Point scope in 3-9x. The asking price is $610. Overall, the rifle looks very good except for a 4"-5" area on top of the barrel just ahead of the scope. The parkerizing looks rough in that area and smooth elsewhere.

Can anyone shed some light on this model Remington? Good? Bad? Same as the VLS but different stock and finish?

Thanks

[hunt127588]

You pretty much summed it up when you said is it close to a VLS. The one difference is that this rifle should have a 1 in 9 twist rather than a 1 in 12. The stock on this rifle is a little different than the VLS in that it will have a palm swell and a little wider beaver tail around the forearm. These rifles usually go for around $750 new and yes, the parkerizing is rough. I actually own a similar model called the LTR which is a 20" fluted barrel in .308 or .223. For more information check out www.remingtonle.com.

[Special Ed]

I have an older one, the 700MP. I'm going to guess it's at least 10 years old. It isn't the most beautiful thing in the world with the rough parkerized finish, but what a shooter. 1/2 moa groups are normal with this rifle, any larger & you flinched!
If you can afford it, buy it.

Ed

[sniperVLS]

any Tactical/Police models are pretty much the same as the VS/VSF models. They all have the palm swell, the same HS stock, and the aluminim bedding block. The VLS has none of those attributes.

The VLS also has a pressure point(Most do anyways) up by the front swivel stud, and most that Ive come across in the past 20 years shoot better when this pressure point is NOT tinkered with. Alas, Ive also seen VLS models shoot bad out of the box and once they were free floated, they were sub MOA shooters. But as a default, I believe the VLS comes with the intended pressure point, so no free floating out of the box. When I get a rifle and it it shoots nickels at 200 yards, I dont touch it. My VLS does this and my rifle does indeed have the pressure point upfront.


In turn, all VS/VSFs come free floated(assuming the barrels arent sitting in the stock at a wierd angle and causing some touching.

I always say if you have can, get a VLS, VS/VSF, and a Sendero, and youve got a fine collection  

[TC Shooter]

My results were opposite of sniperVLS - had a .223 VLS and it really shot poorly until the barrel was free floated. And it took a great deal of sanding to free float it!

I think Remington is the only rifle maker that DOES NOT free float their heavy barrel varmint guns with laminated stocks. All the laminated stock heavy barrel Rugers , Winchesters and Savages I looked at were floated.

But all rifles are different , if mine shot as well as snipers does with the pressure point , I too would have left it as it was!

I now have the "compact" .223 700 LTR with the 20" barrel (floated H&S stock) and I am hoping it can match or exceed the VLS I owned.

[nomosendero]

sniperVLS
With your VLS, have you tried groups with bipod as well as off the bench?
My concern is will the point of impact change in the field if you go to prone with the bipod.
I have a 300 Mag Sendero with the Lam. stock that groups too good at
500 yards to post here, but I have not tried for groups with a bipod either.
Just wanted to know what you have experienced, I feel I would be better off with a floated barrel even if my groups were slightly larger, but have
not decided to take the plunge because of unreal groups. What do you think?

[sniperVLS]

sniperVLS
With your VLS, have you tried groups with bipod as well as off the bench?
My concern is will the point of impact change in the field if you go to prone with the bipod.
I have a 300 Mag Sendero with the Lam. stock that groups too good at
500 yards to post here, but I have not tried for groups with a bipod either.
Just wanted to know what you have experienced, I feel I would be better off with a floated barrel even if my groups were slightly larger, but have
not decided to take the plunge because of unreal groups. What do you think?

95% of my shooting is done using my bipod  :-) That should answer your question. try a bipod, it might be different with your rifle. Ive seen too many of the same model shoot totally different to say it will shoot just like mine. Those naive days are long gone.

I see no impact changes(good or bad) between bench use/bipod use.

Sorry for the very late response, Im back for good though