Author Topic: Belt Mountain Bullets (Read 675 times)

mike454 · « **on:** February 10, 2006, 02:02:22 AM »

I'm running this question up the flagpole at a few different forums. Does anyone know how the belt mountain .452 300 gr punch bullets will penetrate at 1300 fps compared to 1600 fps?

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #1 on:** February 10, 2006, 11:35:14 AM »

we tested quite a few bullets for Kelly and the punch bullets were the only bullets weve penetration tested that seem to go deeper with velocity. They will outdo cast bullets at almost any velocity. Weve shot them out of a 50 alaskan at 2000fps and pulled them out and could have relaoded them again the only way to tell they were shot was the rifle engraving. By the way that 50 alaskan load will outpenetrate just about anything weve tried. The hardest thing is making a box long enough to keep them in.

mike454 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 10, 2006, 02:40:29 PM »

Lloyd, If you had to guess, how much penetration, percentage wise, would be lost dropping from 1600fps to 1300.

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #3 on:** February 10, 2006, 11:52:14 PM »

Mike thats hard to say its going to depend on what your shooting it into the weight of the bullet and the speed of the bullet. But heres my thoughts on it. at 1200 fps there going to shoot through anything living on earth. Would i want that extra 400 fps yup in some circumstances. Maybe a 150 yard shot out of a rifle shooing one it would flaten trajectory. But a sane handgun shooting distances that would matter a bit. If i had to take a shot at a elephant or cape buffalo comming at me yup! Id want to drive a bullet just as deap into him as i could and as many of them as i could. One thing you have to keep in mind is penetration testing like we do isnt a scientific study. Theres just to many variables. I can tell you that the load i just shot a 1100 lb buffalo with was a 480 lfn at about 1100 fps cast of out 5050 ww/lyno and it blew right through the buffalo and simular loads with kellys bullets woud give us probably 10 percent better performance and as the velocitys increase it go alot more dramatic because just as soon as a cast bullet deforms even just a little bit penetrations suffers dramaticaly as does deflection and you wont get kellys bullets to deform at any speed that a handgun or lever gun can shoot them. Do i use them to hunt with? no. I cant afford them the ones we shot were donated by kelly for testing. If i was going to africa with a handgun or a lever would i use them? Without a shadow of a doubt. They are flat the best performing handgun bullets on the market and the cost of a few of them to develope a load and to hunt a once in a lifetime hunt would be a minor cost in the big picture.

nomosendero · « **Reply #4 on:** February 12, 2006, 03:57:47 PM »

Lloyd, I thought I had read somewhere that Garret would have a 44Mag
load with these slugs. Did that go away? From what you are saying maybe
the cost would be too great. What do you think?

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #5 on:** February 14, 2006, 12:22:04 PM »

Im pretty sure grizzly ammo loads them