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Offline Lawful Larry

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« on: February 12, 2006, 05:17:31 AM »
I am new to predator hunting.  I would like to get in on this type of hunting and need a good point in the right direction.  Any good places on the internet or any good books on this subject for beginners?

My buddy has an electronic caller and he picked up a few predator chips.  The only problem is we don't know which to use during what time of the year.  Any help would be appreciated, thanks.     :grin:
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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2006, 06:18:38 AM »
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I am new to predator hunting.  I would like to get in on this type of hunting and need a good point in the right direction.  Any good places on the internet or any good books on this subject for beginners?

My buddy has an electronic caller and he picked up a few predator chips.  The only problem is we don't know which to use during what time of the year.  Any help would be appreciated, thanks.     :grin:


Larry

I think you will find calling Predators is an all year around game. Since you already have a Caller all you need to get started is some rabbit calls both jack rabbit & cotten tail. The main advice to you is patience LOTS of it
Its just like any hunting you have to  be prepared to sit for long periods and do a lot of looking and listening. There is probably some predator hunters in your area that would be glad to come to your aid. Good luck to ya :D  ..........Joe.......
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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2006, 01:00:05 PM »
look for videos by Randy Anderson "calling all coyotes"he has several out and are absolutly wonderful.
most varmints and predators can be hunted year round.I normaly stop calling end of feb begining of march.Most the females are ladden with babies in them then shortly there after they give birth and tend to them till aug are sept when the new ones are grown and head out on there own (more targets for next year).should be easy to go to google and type in randys name and find a place to order the CDs are tapes.remember keep the wind at yer face and the sun to yer back.go straight to the set with out zig zagin around and leavin yer scent all over tarnation.
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2006, 06:37:45 AM »
Larry- forget the videos, they work if you are out west. I also hunt in the east and it is completely different. The coyotes stay close to cover and long shots are out for the most part. I used all the western techniques and they don't work. Go to Coyotegods.com and read the tutorial, alot of good info. Get a good electronic call and some good hand calls. Remember with either, the volume is very important. Coyotes and foxes become wary if the sound is too loud for the distance of its origin. That was a lesson that was learned the hard way.
 I have made alot of mistakes and hopefully learned from them. A coyote will not make the same mistake twice. When hunting in and around woods, a shot gun is the right choice, a scoped rifle is worthless when the coyote or fox comes out of the woods at full stride at 60yds and is in your lap by the time you get the crosshairs on it. A shot gun is worthless if it thinks something is wrong and sits down at 160yds and just stares at you but can't figure out what is wrong ( my mouse squeeker didn't help)
 I have hunted from the ground, in deer blinds and tree stands. All of the farms that I hunt the coyotes are well educated from people taking pop shots at them. Here is one bit of advice that I have learned. If you call one in and are not absolutely sure that when you pull the trigger he will die, don't. He will come to that call again. If you miss, you will never see him again.
 I enjoy the cat and mouse aspect of preditor hunting and I have never had a bad outing.

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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2006, 08:28:26 AM »
I can't add much to what Qaz said, but he just gave you some very good advice.

How close to Pulaski county are you?

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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2006, 08:53:25 AM »
yea those guys are givin ya good advise,don't look at any of randys videos.he only speaks with a western drawl to the predators,he only makes some of the best calls around,and shows you how to use calls.wether its a cotton tail or jackrabbit,guess you all don't have woodpeckers or cottontails in Va...so I guess car horns oughta bring em in there. heck even an ole mechanical siren will locate em at night.
and the one guys say a rifle is worthless then goes on to say a shotgun is worthless..guess sling shots work in the east real well.I normally take both a shotgun and rifle to the field keeping the shotgun on my lap and the rifle settin next to me at the ready.you sort it out and use what works for you.they are sly.and if ya think ya saw one..you probably did.
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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2006, 02:56:50 PM »
Just to be clear Kyote, I never said that the western guys didn't know what they were doing, and if you'll read closer, I'm pretty sure you'll see that Qaz didn't either.

I learned everything when I first started calling from the western fellows simply because there was no info at all on eastern methods. Yes, a lot of the "basics" of hunting predators out there apply here, but our terrain is completely different as well as extremely more populated(humans).

I have no doubts that if you dropped a few of the western coyotes here, they'd start acting just like ours do. Our coyotes rarely ever come running up a road or cow path to a call. More often than not, they sneak in using the thickest cover available, and as long as they can peek out of it, they won't leave it till they actually see what's making the sounds. On the rare occasion that they do come running in, it usually ends with them busting hard out of that cover, and heading hard into the next patch. Once in a while one will step out of cover, usually on a knoll or hill, to look for the sound from what he thinks is a safe distance.

If he busts hard out of cover at close range a rifle, in most hunters hands then "does" become worthless. On the flip side, if he steps into the open at 100-200 yards then common sense dictates that at that point, yes, a shotgun "does" become worthless. That's the point Qaz was making, and I thought he did a pretty good job of it.

As far as the type of sounds you make when calling, if they're quality, clear, and the right volume, it pretty much doesn't matter what animal they sound like as long as the predator is either hungry, wanting to fight, or wanting to mate. The Anderson videos are great, as well as the Johnny Stewart, and any number of other ones out there, but none of them can turn you into a great eastern caller. Only applying the basics they show you, and then adjusting them to fit our eastern needs will bring consistant success.

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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2006, 03:32:15 PM »
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     I must agree with every thing you have said,I believe I can learn more then I know from folks that have a harder time then I do bringing in coyotes and shooting them.
I believe primos (who now Randy anderson works for as a pro staff member)has a eastern set of callers and I know that sceery has the eastern call also.I use them in the west and they work great.
most all coyotes that have been around folks get smart fast.I love going out the 1st of oct and getting as many as the "dumb ones"as I can.they are normally the young ones from the years birthing.then its on to the smart ones.the older ones that have been called and shot at,become very sly and cautious,they circle,they go slow and smell the air all the way around and when they wind ya the head away at a very fast pace.BUT if you learn to speak the language well,you can really piss the alphas off and have them come chargin in.even the educated ones.If you can make it sound like a coyote is already there munchin on somthing thats screamin for it's life.you will see more coyotes comin in.and in the east where its more wooded and thicker cover.you normally would need to call louder with sound that will travel farther.BUT always starting out for the 1st couple calls calling soft.THEN callin louder after a while.I never thought you thought I did not know what I was talkin about.just could not understand why you would not want some one to watch a video.the callin technique should work every where.just the set up might be different and you might want to wait longer at an eastern setup.
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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2006, 07:31:33 PM »
Hi there is one out made in the east in Ohio. Called Predator hunting in the East part 1. Look up

http://www.leftfieldstudios.com/huntingintheeast.html

I havent seen it yet. But i have heard alot of people say it was good. VM :D

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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2006, 02:22:51 AM »
Hey fellas, I am really thankful for all the responses.  I am having a field day researching predator hunting and have a wealth of info to get started.  I will start with the experts and go from there.  

As with eveything practise makes perfect.  I will get started and learn alot from my errors.  It is always good to have a base of knowledge to start from though.  Thanks.
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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2006, 01:51:39 PM »
Well.....I don't hunt this time of the year because of denning season. If you must hunt don't go over board, keep it simple.  

Coyotes must eat all year long and they can't live on howls alone.

Hunters nowadays tend to go overboard with equipment and preparation. No secret formula, just simple hunting skills is all you need. :wink:

By the way, this is the hardest time of the year to call coyotes because of the matting season.

Psst.....if you love calling coyotes, shoot one bitch coyote and kill 6-8 pups, something to think about.
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