Author Topic: Cheney shoots hunting partner (Read 3239 times)

Haywire Haywood · « **on:** February 12, 2006, 11:14:08 AM »

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Vice President Dick Cheney accidentally shot and wounded a 78-year-old man while hunting for quail on a ranch in Texas, U.S. television networks reported on Sunday. Cheney's hunting companion, Harry Whittington, was "alert and doing fine" in the hospital after being shot on Saturday with shotgun pellets, CNN reported ranch owner Katharine Armstrong said. Armstrong, the owner of the ranch where the weekend hunt took place, said Whittington was taken to Corpus Christi Memorial hospital, the network reported. CNN said Cheney spent time at the hospital on Sunday with Whittington, a lawyer from Austin

Yikes... now there's a shining example for the anti's to rally around.

Ian

IntrepidWizard · « **Reply #1 on:** February 12, 2006, 11:34:52 AM »

I have thought about shooting my "hunting partners" myself a few times.

Graybeard · « **Reply #2 on:** February 12, 2006, 11:40:45 AM »

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I have thought about shooting my "hunting partners" myself a few times.

Now Wiz ya don't think that feeling was ever mutual do ya? :-D

IntrepidWizard · « **Reply #3 on:** February 12, 2006, 12:06:23 PM »

I know it was that is why I crawl when others walk

Haywire Haywood · « **Reply #4 on:** February 12, 2006, 12:10:39 PM »

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I know it was that is why I crawl when others walk

Crawing only works if you're bird hunting and you don't have long floppy ears.

"I swear your honor, I saw that grass move and swore it was a rabbit."

Ian

IntrepidWizard · « **Reply #5 on:** February 12, 2006, 12:37:49 PM »

You are right on that Haywire and we have grass in the Sierra this year for a record but temps will be 20 degrees down by Wednesday.Chukar are back as well as Doves,Canada Geese and all ducks.

jrcanoe · « **Reply #6 on:** February 12, 2006, 01:00:07 PM »

Notice how the media is allready makeing excuses for Cheney and blameing the victom. It is 100% Cheneys fault. There is no such thing as a Hunting accident ; Only ineptness and incompitance .

williamlayton · « **Reply #7 on:** February 12, 2006, 01:48:14 PM »

Folks the world cannot make death and accidents NOT happen.
Deep breaths, oxygen to the brain, deep breaths, relax, deep breaths.
Blessings

KENTDEP · « **Reply #8 on:** February 12, 2006, 02:15:22 PM »

I hope that friend makes a full recovery. I wonder how Cheney's weak heart is doing after that? I'd feel like crap.

Jay

IntrepidWizard · « **Reply #9 on:** February 12, 2006, 02:57:09 PM »

There you go again 7,a few liberals have accused Chaney of being quick on the trigger as a few conservatives have accused Hillary of going to a Anger Management Class.

Nightrain52 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 12, 2006, 03:53:12 PM »

Boys-I don't care how safe a gun handler you think you are a momentary lapse of concentration is all it takes.

Leverdude · « **Reply #11 on:** February 12, 2006, 04:00:22 PM »

Things happen. If it were not the VP it wouldn't have made the front page in the local paper.

IntrepidWizard · « **Reply #12 on:** February 12, 2006, 04:19:38 PM »

True Dude ,but it would be all over the Internet

IntrepidWizard · « **Reply #13 on:** February 12, 2006, 04:22:43 PM »

Many years ago I had a 336 go off in the Decompression area of the house,boots,coat area and I pulled the trigger on a loaded gun,there was silence from the kitchen then a pop of a champaine bottle and a lot of cheering from
Dale but she was wrong,it went through two walls and ended up in a spare room curtain to be found years later.

dukkillr · « **Reply #14 on:** February 12, 2006, 04:23:13 PM »

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Boys-I don't care how safe a gun handler you think you are a momentary lapse of concentration is all it takes.

so true... a good reminder to all of us

mitchell · « **Reply #15 on:** February 12, 2006, 04:50:17 PM »

Quote from: TM7

Quote from: jrcanoe
Notice how the media is allready makeing excuses for Cheney and blameing the victom. It is 100% Cheneys fault. There is no such thing as a Hunting accident ; Only ineptness and incompitance .

I agree,,,no such thing as an accident in the eyes of the Law.

.............................TM7

sadly that true , the law doesn't give a care if it was a accident or not but we people need to remember that crap happens and when we do it own up to it and carry on.

if it were me i would give the man some grace, caz i sure hope i get some grace when its me in the wrong.

Daveinthebush · « **Reply #16 on:** February 12, 2006, 05:51:07 PM »

President Ford dinged someone with a golf ball once. It happens. We lost a hunter up here last year as he stood up into the fireingline of a guides .338. He never knew what hit him.

jh45gun · « **Reply #17 on:** February 13, 2006, 05:17:33 AM »

Quote from: jrcanoe

Notice how the media is allready makeing excuses for Cheney and blameing the victom. It is 100% Cheneys fault. There is no such thing as a Hunting accident ; Only ineptness and incompitance .

What little perfect world do you live in? Anyone could have a accident even you! Even the most safe people there are have been known to have accidents. It happens even to the best of us!

Danegeld · « **Reply #18 on:** February 13, 2006, 12:53:50 PM »

Greeting Ya'll, news just reported he got a ticket for not having the proper license.

Ben

powderman · « **Reply #19 on:** February 13, 2006, 04:22:52 PM »

This should be a wakeup call to all of us. Accidents do happen. Most are stupid mistakes, but things happen quickly and there is no room for error when guns are involved. I knew a guy who was with some guys tossing cans in the air and shooting them. He stepped in front of the shooter just as he pulled the trigger, head shot at 8-10ft. No matter how experienced we are we should NEVER get too comfortable with our shooting habits, or gun handling, we have to always be aware of the consequences of just one mistake. I'm sure mr Chaney feels like crap, I know I would. POWDERMAN.

Gregory · « **Reply #20 on:** February 13, 2006, 04:34:39 PM »

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What little perfect world do you live in? Anyone could have a accident even you! Even the most safe people there are have been known to have accidents. It happens even to the best of us![

My boys were told you are not allowed to make a mistake when handling a gun. One mistake could cost someone their life.

Brett · « **Reply #21 on:** February 13, 2006, 05:28:02 PM »

Didn't know TX had an open season on lawers. Wounder what it would cost to book a hunt. :wink:

jh45gun · « **Reply #22 on:** February 13, 2006, 06:28:05 PM »

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What little perfect world do you live in? Anyone could have a accident even you! Even the most safe people there are have been known to have accidents. It happens even to the best of us![

My boys were told you are not allowed to make a mistake when handling a gun. One mistake could cost someone their life.

That may be true Greg and I am sure you taught your boys well but every year there are hunting accidents in this country sad but a fact. Out of those hunting accidents many were folks that know gun safety or have passed hunter safety. Now since blaze orange has been put into use for high visability clothing and Hunter safety has been in effect the number of accidents are down which is good, but they still do happen.

stimpylu32 · « **Reply #23 on:** February 13, 2006, 07:41:40 PM »

Brett

Texas is not that far from Hooker Ok. / Maybe get 2 hunts for the price of one . :wink: Just kidding .

You know the anti's will be all over this and the next batch of try to take our gun laws can not be too far around the corner .

williamlayton · « **Reply #24 on:** February 14, 2006, 01:31:01 AM »

Growing up I had two friends killed in hunting accidents. In the same years I had five killed in road accidents.
None of this is funny and I remember all of them fondly but the corelations are the same, it is a dangerous life we live, there are no guarentees, it rains on the just and the unjust, and the best one can do is to be as safe as possible---even then, well, even then.
Blessings

Dusty Miller · « **Reply #25 on:** February 14, 2006, 08:48:05 AM »

I don't buy into the "accidents do happen" line. This "accident" was caused by human behavior that was not properly channeled. Improper gunhandling causes lots of "accidents". Locally a deputy sheriff was shot in the leg at the police gun range by another officer mishandling a .308 caliber rifle. The local media called it an "accident" but anybody with a lick of sense knows that a gun was not handled properly. Making limp excuses does not reduce the problem, accountability does.

Gregory · « **Reply #26 on:** February 14, 2006, 01:15:58 PM »

Quote from: Dusty Miller

Making limp excuses does not reduce the problem, accountability does.

Agree 100%

Danegeld · « **Reply #27 on:** February 14, 2006, 02:24:35 PM »

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My boys were told you are not allowed to make a mistake when handling a gun. One mistake could cost someone their life.

Yep, that's the way I was taught by my old man as well.

Ben

Leatherstocking · « **Reply #28 on:** February 14, 2006, 04:32:14 PM »

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I don't buy into the "accidents do happen" line. This "accident" was caused by human behavior that was not properly channeled. Improper gunhandling causes lots of "accidents". Locally a deputy sheriff was shot in the leg at the police gun range by another officer mishandling a .308 caliber rifle. The local media called it an "accident" but anybody with a lick of sense knows that a gun was not handled properly. Making limp excuses does not reduce the problem, accountability does

Exactly! Sounds to me like the VP forgot one of the top three rules of gun safety. Know your target and what's beyond.... If you follow this rule along with the other two cardinal rules - 1) treat every gun as if it were loaded and 2)keep the muzzle pointed in safe direction, you may have an accident (or an accidental discharge as has happened to me) BUT...... nobody will get hurt or killed

jh45gun · « **Reply #29 on:** February 14, 2006, 08:06:44 PM »

Easy for you guys to be judgemental but now many of you deer hunt ( Or elk or antelope ect ect ect) and shoot either on a drive as a driver or a stander not knowing where your bullet will wind up if you miss the deer just that it is going into some trees or in a open area that nothing will stop it? Just because you cannot see any blaze orange in your field of vision does not mean that that bullet may travel somewhere else from where you intended it it could ricochete (SP)? and go in a different direction. I have hunted for too many years that I have not seen guys shooting where they thought they were safe and there was maybe over a hill a house or barn or roadway ect ect ect. Unless your bullet hits the animal you shoot at and stays in the animal chances are you have no darn idea exactly where your bullet is going to wind up at. Now I realize that a shotgun is a close up matter and you should be able to see line of sight but for arguements sake all you guys that are preaching about gun safety has made a shot that you had no idea where the bullet would wind up. If you say you have not and do any kind of rifle hunting at all then I will call you a liar.