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Offline ras5_98

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« on: February 12, 2006, 11:41:40 AM »
i have the rossi 223. i put a tasco world class 3 by 9 scope on it. every time i shot it it shots different. had it sighted in yesterday shot it today it was 8 in. low. i shot the win white box 45 grain.

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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2006, 11:47:59 AM »
Try a known good scope mounted properly on it to eliminate the scope/mounts as the problem.  Tascos built prior to BPO in 2002, but after the original Tasco went belly up, have a reputation to be of poor quality.

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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2006, 11:48:13 AM »
I had the same problem with my 06 Rossi. I came to find out the scope rail screws had come loose after 5 shots. A little Locktite solved that problem. :D

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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2006, 12:38:27 PM »
i have heard that about tasco. i am going to try a nikon pro staff 3/ 9. i heard they are pretty good

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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2006, 02:14:27 PM »
That Nikon Prostaff would be a very honorable choice for your little rifle.
It does sound like a scope/rings/rail malfunction. Any and or, I mean :-)
Those WWB 45gr JHPs shoot pretty consistant. Good ammo.
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2006, 06:33:05 AM »
I would agree with myarmor.  I got a new Rossi 223HB for Christmas.  I put a new 3x9 Bushnell on it and thought I had it tightened down.  I began experiencing what you described during sight in.  I found that one of the rings had backed off the base mount rail a little bit.  After tightening, everything stayed consistant.
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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2006, 01:42:31 PM »
found out today that it is the base mount.. whooo thank god its not the gun.. i am still going with the nikon prostaff scope.. thanks for all the advice
ras5_98

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Loose screws versus inaccuracy.
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2006, 01:33:56 PM »
Just to jump on the end of this, my .308 Rossi is wildly inaccurate particularly with Winchester factory ammo, I removed my scope to check as to whether my base mount screws were loose and the first one closest to the hammer required a slight tweak an eighth of a turn or less maybe a 16th of a turn, would this be enough to cause such random results? I have tried pretty much all the fixes : tightening the foregrip screw till I reckon it was gunna snap, resting the rifle close to the trigger on the bench... I found handloading gave me some better results but it`s still pretty embarressing to be frank... :oops: [/b]

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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2006, 05:57:44 PM »
Johnny, have you checked all the usual suspects like:
1 -Scope, base and rings, which it sounds like you have done this

2 -Look for any small burs or nicks at the end of the muzzle. Use a Q-Tip
around it if at all in doubt.

3 -Does it lock up tightly? Any play sideways or any gap between the receiver?

4 -Have you tried a partial float of the barrel? You might have the screw too tight making excess pressure on the barrel. This would throw off shots greatly if there is a raised spot or wood inside the forearm channel. Use an O-Ring or something else that will raise the barrel off the wood. If you need to sand out the inside of the barrel channel so that nothing touches.

5 -Do you follow through completely after you squeze off the trigger?

6 -Is there any rust inside your bore or is the bore rough? A good metel polish will help here.

Just a few things to look for and try. What size of groups are you getting with it anyway? What other ammo have you tried in it?

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« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2006, 01:40:18 PM »
Myarmor:  I have used Winchester Super X 150 gr  and it shoots shotgun patterns, the vicous recoil has something to do with this I feel, on the bench it`s hard to stay consistant. I tried cooking up some of my own handloads: 125 gr Nosler ballistic Tips with 2 or 3 grains under the minimum load and this was WAY better, actually getting within a few inches or so, even out to 200 yards. But, it goes wild pretty easy. I accept I need to let the barrel cool, which I do, but the inconsistancy hampers me getting it properly dialed.  It will put 2 reasonabley close when cold, sometimes, and I`d accept this as I don`t really see myself blazing away with it to be honest, if I can`t get the job done first or for that matter second time, what I`m shooting at is gone like the wind.

I alternate between cursing myself for buying this thing, `why didn`t I buy something reputable secondhand? and then, I pull it out of the safe and go: `oh, how could I stay mad at you?  :roll:  It`s the `stainless` finish, I don`t see too many in this style in forums, it handles sorta okay. The shooting I do generally I have my Rossi .308, my Zastava ( was sold by Charles Daly in America) .223 bolt action and a shot gun in a box on the roof of a small car. Predominately the .223 gets used the most, but if I see a pig or a longer shot presents itself, the .308 `would` be pressed into service.

I say would, as the last trip out it stayed in my road car locked up and didnt come out, due to the accuracy issues, although this was prior to the 125gr Noslers experiment. One must understand, that Australia`s market is small, word travells fast, I am stuck with this rifle pretty much, you can`t give them away, not in .308 anyway. However to draw a long post to an end, I will keep trying all the tips I find in this forum, I have`nt got anything to lose really.

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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2006, 04:19:43 PM »
I own a 223 Bull barrel Rossi, 6.5x24 Simmons 44 Mag......very acccurate.

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« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2006, 03:56:19 AM »
had the same problem with a combo 243 , 20 gauge combo.  tried 2 scopes 1 a weaver and 1 a nikon, tried factory ammo and different reloads, finally figured out that what helped it most was the forearm was so tight on the lug, (i literally had to pry it off) i used a drill bit and with my hands (no drill) worked a little of the wood off of the sides, this helped it tremendously,  I had checked the base and I also took screws out and loc-tited them, the forearm was the only thing that I found wrong with it,  anybody shot the 20 guage, man that thing has some kick to it.

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Re: anyone have this problem?
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2006, 03:11:19 PM »
I cured one by putting a soft rubber o-ring around the forearm screw mount on the barrel. Tightened the forearm snug enough not to flaten the o-ring but to hold the forearm. It worked like penacillen. Just like floating the barrel almost.
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